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Conflict of two small transport aircraft near outer marker of mfr, reporter VFR, other aircraft on IFR control.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 124340 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198910 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mfr |
| State Reference | OR |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mfr |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 124340 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
It was our routine morning flight to medford. We were level FL230 on a clear unlimited visibility morning. At about 58 NM from the airport, seattle center advised that we would need to descend to 9000 at that time due to conflicting IFR traffic inbound to medford. As we descended through 17,500 and were still 40 NM from the airport, I elected to cancel the IFR and stay up longer to save a little fuel. We cancelled and remained on center frequency for flight following. At about 20 NM out (north), center advised that we had traffic at 9 O'clock 5 NM, an X type aircraft descending into medford, that aircraft was on the approach control frequency of a non radar facility. We both were looking for the X and we were looking into the sun. We were unable to establish visual contact with the traffic. At about 12 NM from the airport, center advised us to contact medford tower. We called the tower and reported 5 north of the VOR (11 NM from the airport). Tower advised that there was a Y type aircraft inbound last reported north of the VOR. 'Report abeam the VOR for landing assignment.' we called abeam the VOR, tower acknowledged our call and then asked the Y its position. Y replied that they also were abeam the VOR. The tower asked them if they had us in sight. They replied with, 'they just went over us.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CONFLICT OF TWO SMT ACFT NEAR OUTER MARKER OF MFR, REPORTER VFR, OTHER ACFT ON IFR CTL.
Narrative: IT WAS OUR ROUTINE MORNING FLT TO MEDFORD. WE WERE LEVEL FL230 ON A CLEAR UNLIMITED VISIBILITY MORNING. AT ABOUT 58 NM FROM THE ARPT, SEATTLE CENTER ADVISED THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DSND TO 9000 AT THAT TIME DUE TO CONFLICTING IFR TFC INBND TO MEDFORD. AS WE DESCENDED THROUGH 17,500 AND WERE STILL 40 NM FROM THE ARPT, I ELECTED TO CANCEL THE IFR AND STAY UP LONGER TO SAVE A LITTLE FUEL. WE CANCELLED AND REMAINED ON CENTER FREQ FOR FLT FOLLOWING. AT ABOUT 20 NM OUT (NORTH), CENTER ADVISED THAT WE HAD TFC AT 9 O'CLOCK 5 NM, AN X TYPE ACFT DESCENDING INTO MEDFORD, THAT ACFT WAS ON THE APCH CTL FREQ OF A NON RADAR FAC. WE BOTH WERE LOOKING FOR THE X AND WE WERE LOOKING INTO THE SUN. WE WERE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE TFC. AT ABOUT 12 NM FROM THE ARPT, CENTER ADVISED US TO CONTACT MEDFORD TWR. WE CALLED THE TWR AND REPORTED 5 N OF THE VOR (11 NM FROM THE ARPT). TWR ADVISED THAT THERE WAS A Y TYPE ACFT INBND LAST REPORTED N OF THE VOR. 'REPORT ABEAM THE VOR FOR LNDG ASSIGNMENT.' WE CALLED ABEAM THE VOR, TWR ACKNOWLEDGED OUR CALL AND THEN ASKED THE Y ITS POSITION. Y REPLIED THAT THEY ALSO WERE ABEAM THE VOR. THE TWR ASKED THEM IF THEY HAD US IN SIGHT. THEY REPLIED WITH, 'THEY JUST WENT OVER US.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.