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Attributes | |
ACN | 125834 |
Time | |
Date | 198910 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl tower : atl tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 18000 |
ASRS Report | 125834 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Atl approach control habitually tells all traffic at about 10-15 mi out to contact the tower at the OM (6.4 mi in this case). There is a long interval of time here with the responsibility for the changeover resting with the pilots. In a 2-M crew, environment this is a bit too much! There is too much to do!!--ie, run the approach and landing checklist, passenger announcements to seat F/a's, etc--even if there are no abnormal problems to distract you!! We had an APU that was difficult to start, therefore preoccupied with the possibility of an overtemp or hung start. There was so much chatter on app frequency that we must have subconsciously (being 'in the flow' of the system) thought we were cleared to land. No aircraft were in front of us, but several behind. None on the runway, or txwys, so apparently we were leading the pack. We finally contacted the tower on the ground. We were cleared to cross runway 9L and taxied to the gate. Opinion: I would like for all approach controllers to say: 'contact the tower on 119.1 now!!!' (not at some predetermined point further during the approach.) there is an incredible amount of traffic into atl--the controllers do a wonderful job. The system seems to be overloaded here more than elsewhere.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG UNAUTH LNDG AT ATL. FORGOT TO CHANGE TO TWR FREQ.
Narrative: ATL APCH CTL HABITUALLY TELLS ALL TFC AT ABOUT 10-15 MI OUT TO CONTACT THE TWR AT THE OM (6.4 MI IN THIS CASE). THERE IS A LONG INTERVAL OF TIME HERE WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CHANGEOVER RESTING WITH THE PLTS. IN A 2-M CREW, ENVIRONMENT THIS IS A BIT TOO MUCH! THERE IS TOO MUCH TO DO!!--IE, RUN THE APCH AND LNDG CHKLIST, PAX ANNOUNCEMENTS TO SEAT F/A'S, ETC--EVEN IF THERE ARE NO ABNORMAL PROBS TO DISTRACT YOU!! WE HAD AN APU THAT WAS DIFFICULT TO START, THEREFORE PREOCCUPIED WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF AN OVERTEMP OR HUNG START. THERE WAS SO MUCH CHATTER ON APP FREQ THAT WE MUST HAVE SUBCONSCIOUSLY (BEING 'IN THE FLOW' OF THE SYS) THOUGHT WE WERE CLRED TO LAND. NO ACFT WERE IN FRONT OF US, BUT SEVERAL BEHIND. NONE ON THE RWY, OR TXWYS, SO APPARENTLY WE WERE LEADING THE PACK. WE FINALLY CONTACTED THE TWR ON THE GND. WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS RWY 9L AND TAXIED TO THE GATE. OPINION: I WOULD LIKE FOR ALL APCH CTLRS TO SAY: 'CONTACT THE TWR ON 119.1 NOW!!!' (NOT AT SOME PREDETERMINED POINT FURTHER DURING THE APCH.) THERE IS AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TFC INTO ATL--THE CTLRS DO A WONDERFUL JOB. THE SYS SEEMS TO BE OVERLOADED HERE MORE THAN ELSEWHERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.