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Attributes | |
ACN | 156190 |
Time | |
Date | 199009 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cle |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 26000 msl bound upper : 26000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob tracon : cle |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 14000 |
ASRS Report | 156190 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were under radar vectors departing cle for dca. The controller called us and said we had entered a restr area that was hot. I was the PNF, the first officer was flying. I made especially sure to read back all instructions and altitudes that were given us by ATC. The controller came back with a reply that it was his error. The radio traffic was heavy and he was not using the aircraft's full call sign. My recommendation would be for the controller in the future when busy to limit his airspace control or provide routing to the crews in lieu of radar vectoring numerous aircraft. That would result in a # of various conflicts. Also, please note that the restr area is on the low area chart and not the high or SID for the cle area. Even if I was aware of the restr area, ZOB probably had control of that area and should have allowed a greater safety margin during busy traffic times.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG UNAUTH PENETRATION OF RESTRICTED AREA WHILE FOLLOWING RADAR VECTORS FROM ZOB.
Narrative: WE WERE UNDER RADAR VECTORS DEPARTING CLE FOR DCA. THE CTLR CALLED US AND SAID WE HAD ENTERED A RESTR AREA THAT WAS HOT. I WAS THE PNF, THE F/O WAS FLYING. I MADE ESPECIALLY SURE TO READ BACK ALL INSTRUCTIONS AND ALTS THAT WERE GIVEN US BY ATC. THE CTLR CAME BACK WITH A REPLY THAT IT WAS HIS ERROR. THE RADIO TFC WAS HEAVY AND HE WAS NOT USING THE ACFT'S FULL CALL SIGN. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR THE CTLR IN THE FUTURE WHEN BUSY TO LIMIT HIS AIRSPACE CTL OR PROVIDE RTING TO THE CREWS IN LIEU OF RADAR VECTORING NUMEROUS ACFT. THAT WOULD RESULT IN A # OF VARIOUS CONFLICTS. ALSO, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE RESTR AREA IS ON THE LOW AREA CHART AND NOT THE HIGH OR SID FOR THE CLE AREA. EVEN IF I WAS AWARE OF THE RESTR AREA, ZOB PROBABLY HAD CTL OF THAT AREA AND SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED A GREATER SAFETY MARGIN DURING BUSY TFC TIMES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.