B737 flight crew laments the speed restrictions (160 to reebo) applied by sct during localizer 27 ap...

Attributes
ACN	1270525
Time
Date	201506
Local Time Of Day	0601-1200
Place
Locale Reference	SAN.Airport
State Reference	CA
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Initial Approach
Route In Use	STAR BAYVU
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	First Officer Pilot Flying
Qualification	Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP)
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 173
Person 2
Function	Captain Pilot Not Flying
Qualification	Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP)
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 102 Flight Crew Type 13000
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types

Narrative:

Flying into san on the bayvu 3 arrival; the weather was 1100 broken 1500 ovc; temperature 18 and dew point 14. San was using localizer 27 approaches. Once established on the final approach course; we were assigned; by ATC; 160 knots to the FAF; reebo. We advised ATC we were unable to maintain 160 knots. ATC told us if we could not maintain 160; he would pull us off the approach. We advised him that he really gave us no choice and accepted the speed restriction. There were no complications with the approach or landing. The descent angle on this approach is 3.5 degrees into an airport where we have a high rate of unstable approaches. We should not be threatened with delay if we want to fly the approach at our reference speed within three miles of the final approach fix; which is required in the fom.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B737 Flight Crew laments the speed restrictions (160 to REEBO) applied by SCT during LOC 27 approaches to SAN; believing that the speed restrictions leads to unstabilized approaches.

Narrative: Flying into SAN on the BAYVU 3 Arrival; the weather was 1100 BKN 1500 OVC; temperature 18 and dew point 14. SAN was using LOC 27 Approaches. Once established on the final approach course; we were assigned; by ATC; 160 knots to the FAF; REEBO. We advised ATC we were unable to maintain 160 knots. ATC told us if we could not maintain 160; he would pull us off the approach. We advised him that he really gave us no choice and accepted the speed restriction. There were no complications with the approach or landing. The descent angle on this approach is 3.5 degrees into an airport where we have a high rate of unstable approaches. We should not be threatened with delay if we want to fly the approach at our reference speed within three miles of the final approach fix; which is required in the FOM.

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B737 flight crew laments the speed restrictions (160 to reebo) applied by sct during localizer 27 approaches to san; believing that the speed restrictions leads to unstabilized approaches.