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Pilots departing rjaa report requesting a high speed climb below 10;000 feet. The request was approved by departure control. The next controller asks about the aircrafts speed and the crew tells them that they were approved for a no speed restriction climb. The controller responds that they had not been approved for the high speed climb.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1270701 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201506 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | RJAA.Airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Widebody Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Route In Use | SID CUPID2 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
On initial climb out from rjaa on cupid 2; requested hi-speed climb below 10;000 feet from departure control. Controller responded with what we thought was 'no speed restriction'. We queried controller to verify high-speed/no speed restriction. Controller responded with 'ok; no speed restriction' and we acknowledged this clearance. After being handed off to tokyo control; the controller asked about our speed. We told him that we had been cleared to climb with 'no speed restrictions' by previous controller. He came back on frequency a minute later saying that we had not been cleared for a high-speed climb.understanding english language is a real problem from ramp; to ground; to tower; to inflight. We were three experienced rjaa flyers and still had problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilots departing RJAA report requesting a high speed climb below 10;000 feet. The request was approved by Departure Control. The next Controller asks about the aircrafts speed and the crew tells them that they were approved for a no speed restriction climb. The Controller responds that they had not been approved for the high speed climb.
Narrative: On initial climb out from RJAA on Cupid 2; requested hi-speed climb below 10;000 feet from Departure Control. Controller responded with what we thought was 'No speed restriction'. We queried controller to verify high-speed/no speed restriction. Controller responded with 'OK; no speed restriction' and we acknowledged this clearance. After being handed off to Tokyo Control; the controller asked about our speed. We told him that we had been cleared to climb with 'No speed restrictions' by previous controller. He came back on frequency a minute later saying that we had not been cleared for a high-speed climb.Understanding English language is a real problem from ramp; to ground; to tower; to inflight. We were three experienced RJAA flyers and still had problem.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.