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Attributes | |
ACN | 129153 |
Time | |
Date | 198911 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rdb |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : rdb |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 510 |
ASRS Report | 129153 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
The incident occurred on an far part 141 instrument training flight from addison to redbird. I asked approach control for VOR runway 17 and was cleared for that approach. Approach control asked what my intentions were following the approach and I said that I intended to make a full stop landing. Upon reaching my MDA of 1060' (400 AGL), I was still in broken clouds. I did not see the runway environment until I was well past the threshold. In my opinion, since I was still 400' AGL, a safe landing was not possible, therefore I executed the published missed approach until other instructions were received from the tower. We were next given vectors for ILS runway 31 at redbird and broke out of the clouds at 300 AGL and made a safe landing. After landing, one of the other instructors at my flight school mentioned that someone from the tower complained to him over the phone about my missed approach. I decided to go up to the tower in person to clear the matter up. I talked to one of the tower personnel who was very unfriendly and told me that they expected me to make a full stop landing on the VOR runway 17 and believed I should have been able to do so. Apparently there was an aircraft on the ILS runway 31 approach when I was on the VOR runway 17 approach and when I missed my approach, it created a separation problem. The tower employee went so far as to accuse me of drinking (not true of course, I hadn't been drinking). He said he didn't like the smell of my breath and asked if I'd been drinking. It is my understanding I have the right to miss an approach if I'm not in a position to land safely (in my opinion). I feel the tower needs to prepare for missed apches when there is a chance there will be one. This incident left me with less than positive feelings for pilot-ATC relations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR COMPLAINS ABOUT ACFT MAKING MISSED APCH.
Narrative: THE INCIDENT OCCURRED ON AN FAR PART 141 INSTRUMENT TRAINING FLT FROM ADDISON TO REDBIRD. I ASKED APCH CTL FOR VOR RWY 17 AND WAS CLRED FOR THAT APCH. APCH CTL ASKED WHAT MY INTENTIONS WERE FOLLOWING THE APCH AND I SAID THAT I INTENDED TO MAKE A FULL STOP LNDG. UPON REACHING MY MDA OF 1060' (400 AGL), I WAS STILL IN BROKEN CLOUDS. I DID NOT SEE THE RWY ENVIRONMENT UNTIL I WAS WELL PAST THE THRESHOLD. IN MY OPINION, SINCE I WAS STILL 400' AGL, A SAFE LNDG WAS NOT POSSIBLE, THEREFORE I EXECUTED THE PUBLISHED MISSED APCH UNTIL OTHER INSTRUCTIONS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE TWR. WE WERE NEXT GIVEN VECTORS FOR ILS RWY 31 AT REDBIRD AND BROKE OUT OF THE CLOUDS AT 300 AGL AND MADE A SAFE LNDG. AFTER LNDG, ONE OF THE OTHER INSTRUCTORS AT MY FLT SCHOOL MENTIONED THAT SOMEONE FROM THE TWR COMPLAINED TO HIM OVER THE PHONE ABOUT MY MISSED APCH. I DECIDED TO GO UP TO THE TWR IN PERSON TO CLEAR THE MATTER UP. I TALKED TO ONE OF THE TWR PERSONNEL WHO WAS VERY UNFRIENDLY AND TOLD ME THAT THEY EXPECTED ME TO MAKE A FULL STOP LNDG ON THE VOR RWY 17 AND BELIEVED I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO SO. APPARENTLY THERE WAS AN ACFT ON THE ILS RWY 31 APCH WHEN I WAS ON THE VOR RWY 17 APCH AND WHEN I MISSED MY APCH, IT CREATED A SEPARATION PROBLEM. THE TWR EMPLOYEE WENT SO FAR AS TO ACCUSE ME OF DRINKING (NOT TRUE OF COURSE, I HADN'T BEEN DRINKING). HE SAID HE DIDN'T LIKE THE SMELL OF MY BREATH AND ASKED IF I'D BEEN DRINKING. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING I HAVE THE RIGHT TO MISS AN APCH IF I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO LAND SAFELY (IN MY OPINION). I FEEL THE TWR NEEDS TO PREPARE FOR MISSED APCHES WHEN THERE IS A CHANCE THERE WILL BE ONE. THIS INCIDENT LEFT ME WITH LESS THAN POSITIVE FEELINGS FOR PLT-ATC RELATIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.