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Attributes | |
ACN | 130747 |
Time | |
Date | 198912 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mdt |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 130747 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
When contacting ZNY after takeoff from mdt, reported level at 5000'. Center questioned altitude, and if same received from clearance at mdt. Replied in the affirmative. Center said then that it should have been 3000', and in the future we should question any altitude other than 3000' if given by the clearance delivery. After a moment, all 3 of us looked at the clearance as written by the copilot when he received our clearance. Lo and behold, it was 3000'. After thinking it over, I decided 4 things contributed to our error: 1) the altitude alert was left at 5000' as the last altitude clearance received from arrival, and where we cancelled IMC to completed our approach visually. Should have been reset to 0' or 1000' so we wouldn't have left it alone! 2) very cold out, very light airplane. From takeoff to 5000' probably took less than 2 mins. 3) tower normally releases us right after takeoff, but that night I had to ask to be released to departure. Still was told 'not yet,' and then shortly after we were turned over to center and already at 5000'. #4 last leg of a long 3-DAY trip. Tired, hungry and not as attentive to minor details such as listening to the clearance with the copilot. Fortunately, the WX was clear and skies were empty.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT DEVIATION OVERSHOOT IN CLIMB.
Narrative: WHEN CONTACTING ZNY AFTER TKOF FROM MDT, RPTED LEVEL AT 5000'. CENTER QUESTIONED ALT, AND IF SAME RECEIVED FROM CLRNC AT MDT. REPLIED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. CENTER SAID THEN THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 3000', AND IN THE FUTURE WE SHOULD QUESTION ANY ALT OTHER THAN 3000' IF GIVEN BY THE CLRNC DELIVERY. AFTER A MOMENT, ALL 3 OF US LOOKED AT THE CLRNC AS WRITTEN BY THE COPLT WHEN HE RECEIVED OUR CLRNC. LO AND BEHOLD, IT WAS 3000'. AFTER THINKING IT OVER, I DECIDED 4 THINGS CONTRIBUTED TO OUR ERROR: 1) THE ALT ALERT WAS LEFT AT 5000' AS THE LAST ALT CLRNC RECEIVED FROM ARR, AND WHERE WE CANCELLED IMC TO COMPLETED OUR APCH VISUALLY. SHOULD HAVE BEEN RESET TO 0' OR 1000' SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE LEFT IT ALONE! 2) VERY COLD OUT, VERY LIGHT AIRPLANE. FROM TKOF TO 5000' PROBABLY TOOK LESS THAN 2 MINS. 3) TWR NORMALLY RELEASES US RIGHT AFTER TKOF, BUT THAT NIGHT I HAD TO ASK TO BE RELEASED TO DEP. STILL WAS TOLD 'NOT YET,' AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER WE WERE TURNED OVER TO CENTER AND ALREADY AT 5000'. #4 LAST LEG OF A LONG 3-DAY TRIP. TIRED, HUNGRY AND NOT AS ATTENTIVE TO MINOR DETAILS SUCH AS LISTENING TO THE CLRNC WITH THE COPLT. FORTUNATELY, THE WX WAS CLR AND SKIES WERE EMPTY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.