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Attributes | |
ACN | 1308342 |
Time | |
Date | 201511 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DFW.Airport |
State Reference | TX |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | Vectors SID DALL2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 62 Flight Crew Total 5429 Flight Crew Type 1678 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 62 Flight Crew Total 18840 Flight Crew Type 1691 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
We were departing dfw through a pre departure clearance (pre departure clearance) request. The pre departure clearance showed our filed flight plan SID (DALL2) and routing. We entered the DALL2 SID into our FMS. We then taxied to the assigned runway 35L. Upon departure we were directed to go to a fix which was not on the DALL2 departure. We informed departure control that we did not have the fix on the DALL2 SID. The controller then gave us a heading; which we complied with; and handed us off to another controller. We confirmed to the second controller that we were on the DALL2 SID. The second departure controller directed us to fly several vectors; all of which we complied with; and he then cleared us to swb; our expected waypoint. The balance of the flight continued normally.we subsequently learned that the pre departure clearance also showed the MRSSH1 SID. I believe that having two sids on the pre departure clearance is a source of confusion and a safety issue. We have never had two sids on a pre departure clearance clearance previously.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Flight crew reported about confusion when departing the airport. Their PDC had two SIDs and the crew was flying one and controllers were issuing headings. The pilots are concerned that the PDC format is unclear.
Narrative: We were departing DFW through a PDC (pre departure clearance) request. The PDC showed our filed flight plan SID (DALL2) and routing. We entered the DALL2 SID into our FMS. We then taxied to the assigned runway 35L. Upon departure we were directed to go to a fix which was not on the DALL2 departure. We informed departure control that we did not have the fix on the DALL2 SID. The controller then gave us a heading; which we complied with; and handed us off to another controller. We confirmed to the second controller that we were on the DALL2 SID. The second departure controller directed us to fly several vectors; all of which we complied with; and he then cleared us to SWB; our expected waypoint. The balance of the flight continued normally.We subsequently learned that the PDC also showed the MRSSH1 SID. I believe that having two SIDs on the PDC is a source of confusion and a safety issue. We have never had two SIDs on a PDC clearance previously.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.