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Near collision on ground between small transport and widebody transport caused by apparent saturation of ATC ground controller frequency.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 131787 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198912 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 131787 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 20 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Ldg runway 25R lax, taxi left turn taxiway 24 told to cross 25L, contact ground. After crossing 25L I held short of taxiway F on 24--ground frequency was saturated!!! Both frequencys combined (due to shortage of controllers per lax tower). Unable to jump into frequency to request taxi. While waiting my cabin and aircraft lit up I knew something big was coming close. I then taxied wbound on foxtrot only to see the widebody transport taxiing right by me. I don't think they even saw me, or they would have stopped. Post flight I called lax tower landline. They said they were sorry. We need more man power at all ATC positions!!! A catastrophe is just waiting to happen. Please do something...please!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NEAR COLLISION ON GND BETWEEN SMT AND WDB CAUSED BY APPARENT SATURATION OF ATC GND CTLR FREQ.
Narrative: LDG RWY 25R LAX, TAXI LEFT TURN TXWY 24 TOLD TO CROSS 25L, CONTACT GND. AFTER XING 25L I HELD SHORT OF TXWY F ON 24--GND FREQ WAS SATURATED!!! BOTH FREQS COMBINED (DUE TO SHORTAGE OF CTLRS PER LAX TWR). UNABLE TO JUMP INTO FREQ TO REQUEST TAXI. WHILE WAITING MY CABIN AND ACFT LIT UP I KNEW SOMETHING BIG WAS COMING CLOSE. I THEN TAXIED WBOUND ON FOXTROT ONLY TO SEE THE WDB TAXIING RIGHT BY ME. I DON'T THINK THEY EVEN SAW ME, OR THEY WOULD HAVE STOPPED. POST FLT I CALLED LAX TWR LANDLINE. THEY SAID THEY WERE SORRY. WE NEED MORE MAN PWR AT ALL ATC POSITIONS!!! A CATASTROPHE IS JUST WAITING TO HAPPEN. PLEASE DO SOMETHING...PLEASE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.