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Attributes | |
ACN | 133409 |
Time | |
Date | 199001 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lbb |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lbb |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff landing other other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
ASRS Report | 133409 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Small aircraft X was cleared for touch and go on runway 26. Small aircraft Y was cleared for takeoff on runway 17R. X crossed the threshold of runway 26 before Y crossed the intersection of the runways. No action was taken once the situation was observed to be imminent because: a) neither aircraft was likely to see the other, B) any xmissions made would not have increased the separation (never less than a mi and never at the same altitude). The situation was safe, but not legal and corrective action was as likely to confuse as it was to correct. Contributing factors: a) small aircraft X changing point of turn to base. B) small aircraft Y slow to take off. C) controller running too close to allow for a and/or B. To prevent: a) stop touch and goes when busy. B) spread spacing to the point they cannot cause a problem with pilot changes. C) delay departures. At the time the problem was discovered small aircraft X could have been sent around or told to make a full stop and hold short of 17R. Either instruction would have come on short final with a student flying and it was believed safer not to talk to him at all.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN 2 SMA ACFT. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: SMA X WAS CLRED FOR TOUCH AND GO ON RWY 26. SMA Y WAS CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 17R. X CROSSED THE THRESHOLD OF RWY 26 BEFORE Y CROSSED THE INTXN OF THE RWYS. NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ONCE THE SITUATION WAS OBSERVED TO BE IMMINENT BECAUSE: A) NEITHER ACFT WAS LIKELY TO SEE THE OTHER, B) ANY XMISSIONS MADE WOULD NOT HAVE INCREASED THE SEPARATION (NEVER LESS THAN A MI AND NEVER AT THE SAME ALT). THE SITUATION WAS SAFE, BUT NOT LEGAL AND CORRECTIVE ACTION WAS AS LIKELY TO CONFUSE AS IT WAS TO CORRECT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: A) SMA X CHANGING POINT OF TURN TO BASE. B) SMA Y SLOW TO TAKE OFF. C) CTLR RUNNING TOO CLOSE TO ALLOW FOR A AND/OR B. TO PREVENT: A) STOP TOUCH AND GOES WHEN BUSY. B) SPREAD SPACING TO THE POINT THEY CANNOT CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH PLT CHANGES. C) DELAY DEPS. AT THE TIME THE PROBLEM WAS DISCOVERED SMA X COULD HAVE BEEN SENT AROUND OR TOLD TO MAKE A FULL STOP AND HOLD SHORT OF 17R. EITHER INSTRUCTION WOULD HAVE COME ON SHORT FINAL WITH A STUDENT FLYING AND IT WAS BELIEVED SAFER NOT TO TALK TO HIM AT ALL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.