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Attributes | |
ACN | 133806 |
Time | |
Date | 199001 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 150 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax artcc : zkc |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Heavy Transport, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing other |
Route In Use | arrival : profile descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 133806 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Aircraft was on the profile descent into lax and was subsequently cleared for an is 25L approach. From the time the initial ATIS information was received until T/D, at least 5 different special observations were transmitted by the tower re: the RVR on runway 25L. We commenced our approach based on WX information transmitted just prior to intercepting the ILS G/south and resulted in an uneventful landing and rollout. In this case, the tower was transmitting so much information in a brief span of time that it resulted in some confusion in the cockpit re: minimums and status of checklists. I felt that the tower was attempting to cover themselves to a point where their xmissions were a detriment instead of an asset.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: REPORTER COMPLAINT THAT APCH CTLR CONSTANTLY GAVE CHANGING RVR TO THEM ON APCH, CREATING A DISTR.
Narrative: ACFT WAS ON THE PROFILE DSCNT INTO LAX AND WAS SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED FOR AN IS 25L APCH. FROM THE TIME THE INITIAL ATIS INFO WAS RECEIVED UNTIL T/D, AT LEAST 5 DIFFERENT SPECIAL OBSERVATIONS WERE XMITTED BY THE TWR RE: THE RVR ON RWY 25L. WE COMMENCED OUR APCH BASED ON WX INFO XMITTED JUST PRIOR TO INTERCEPTING THE ILS G/S AND RESULTED IN AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG AND ROLLOUT. IN THIS CASE, THE TWR WAS XMITTING SO MUCH INFO IN A BRIEF SPAN OF TIME THAT IT RESULTED IN SOME CONFUSION IN THE COCKPIT RE: MINIMUMS AND STATUS OF CHKLISTS. I FELT THAT THE TWR WAS ATTEMPTING TO COVER THEMSELVES TO A POINT WHERE THEIR XMISSIONS WERE A DETRIMENT INSTEAD OF AN ASSET.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.