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Attributes | |
ACN | 135877 |
Time | |
Date | 199001 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bdr airport : jfk |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 850 |
ASRS Report | 135877 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Flight jfk-alb on climb out through approximately 3000' MSL. Ny departure said 'company XXX, expedite climb through 7000, climb maintain 1-1-thousand.' I replied, 'roger, XXX.' at 10600' MSL controller said, 'company XXX, stop climb--descend maintain 10000.' I was extremely shocked at this, and while starting my descent back to 10000' MSL I replied, 'company XXX understood prior clearance to 1-1-thousand.' controller came back on and replied 'negative XXX, you were told to climb to 1-0-thousand.' in retrospect, I should have read back the original climb clearance fully, rather than just reply 'roger, XXX.' after the incident I asked the first officer what he had heard the controller say to us in the original climb clearance just prior to the altitude discrepancy. The first officer repeated back to me exactly what I thought I had heard, which was 'company XXX, expedite climb through 7000, climb maintain 1-1-thousand.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ALT DEVIATION OVERSHOT DURING CLIMB.
Narrative: FLT JFK-ALB ON CLBOUT THROUGH APPROX 3000' MSL. NY DEP SAID 'COMPANY XXX, EXPEDITE CLB THROUGH 7000, CLB MAINTAIN 1-1-THOUSAND.' I REPLIED, 'ROGER, XXX.' AT 10600' MSL CTLR SAID, 'COMPANY XXX, STOP CLB--DSND MAINTAIN 10000.' I WAS EXTREMELY SHOCKED AT THIS, AND WHILE STARTING MY DSCNT BACK TO 10000' MSL I REPLIED, 'COMPANY XXX UNDERSTOOD PRIOR CLRNC TO 1-1-THOUSAND.' CTLR CAME BACK ON AND REPLIED 'NEGATIVE XXX, YOU WERE TOLD TO CLB TO 1-0-THOUSAND.' IN RETROSPECT, I SHOULD HAVE READ BACK THE ORIGINAL CLB CLRNC FULLY, RATHER THAN JUST REPLY 'ROGER, XXX.' AFTER THE INCIDENT I ASKED THE F/O WHAT HE HAD HEARD THE CTLR SAY TO US IN THE ORIGINAL CLB CLRNC JUST PRIOR TO THE ALT DISCREPANCY. THE F/O REPEATED BACK TO ME EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT I HAD HEARD, WHICH WAS 'COMPANY XXX, EXPEDITE CLB THROUGH 7000, CLB MAINTAIN 1-1-THOUSAND.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.