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Attributes | |
ACN | 136057 |
Time | |
Date | 199002 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 9700 agl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den tower : sna |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 136057 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending from northwest to denver, approach said to descend and maintain 17,000'. After beginning descent, they said to reduce to 250 KTS. Then cleared to 12,000'. After beginning descent, approach said to reduce to 210 KTS. Then cleared to 11,000'. Then cleared to 10,000'. Then during descent, told us to reduce to 170 KTS. We also had traffic calls and frequency changes during this relatively short span of time from about 35 northwest of den to about 10 mi out. While descending to 10,000 and stabilizing at 170 KTS, approach said we had widebody transport traffic at 10 O'clock, 4 mi, going to 17R (same runway we were to expect). Then he said to disregard, that the traffic was 2 O'clock, not 10 O'clock. During all this congestive conversation and maneuvering, I heard altitude alert go off, and discovered I had descended through 10,000 (cleared altitude) to 9700'. Immediately stopped descent and proceeded to climb back to 10,000 and controller cleared us to 9000'. We called widebody transport traffic in sight and were cleared visual with uneventful landing. Discussion with captain later. He said he was more concerned with us watching outside for traffic rather than missing altitude a couple hundred feet. I suggest a change in VFR parallel runway approach procedures at den. The proximity of aircraft and frequency congestion make denver's procedures boarder of unsafe by being so demanding and distractive.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO ON ACR MLG COMPLAINS OF ATC HANDLING WITH REGARD TO NUMEROUS SPEED CHANGES, FREQ SWITCHOVERS, AND INTERMEDIATE ALTS, ALL OF WHICH RESULTED IN ENOUGH DISTR TO CAUSE THE FO TO OVERSHOOT HIS ALT BY 300' ON DESCENT.
Narrative: DESCENDING FROM NW TO DENVER, APCH SAID TO DSND AND MAINTAIN 17,000'. AFTER BEGINNING DSCNT, THEY SAID TO REDUCE TO 250 KTS. THEN CLRED TO 12,000'. AFTER BEGINNING DSCNT, APCH SAID TO REDUCE TO 210 KTS. THEN CLRED TO 11,000'. THEN CLRED TO 10,000'. THEN DURING DSCNT, TOLD US TO REDUCE TO 170 KTS. WE ALSO HAD TFC CALLS AND FREQ CHANGES DURING THIS RELATIVELY SHORT SPAN OF TIME FROM ABOUT 35 NW OF DEN TO ABOUT 10 MI OUT. WHILE DESCENDING TO 10,000 AND STABILIZING AT 170 KTS, APCH SAID WE HAD WDB TFC AT 10 O'CLOCK, 4 MI, GOING TO 17R (SAME RWY WE WERE TO EXPECT). THEN HE SAID TO DISREGARD, THAT THE TFC WAS 2 O'CLOCK, NOT 10 O'CLOCK. DURING ALL THIS CONGESTIVE CONVERSATION AND MANEUVERING, I HEARD ALT ALERT GO OFF, AND DISCOVERED I HAD DESCENDED THROUGH 10,000 (CLRED ALT) TO 9700'. IMMEDIATELY STOPPED DSCNT AND PROCEEDED TO CLIMB BACK TO 10,000 AND CTLR CLRED US TO 9000'. WE CALLED WDB TFC IN SIGHT AND WERE CLRED VISUAL WITH UNEVENTFUL LNDG. DISCUSSION WITH CAPT LATER. HE SAID HE WAS MORE CONCERNED WITH US WATCHING OUTSIDE FOR TFC RATHER THAN MISSING ALT A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET. I SUGGEST A CHANGE IN VFR PARALLEL RWY APCH PROCS AT DEN. THE PROX OF ACFT AND FREQ CONGESTION MAKE DENVER'S PROCS BOARDER OF UNSAFE BY BEING SO DEMANDING AND DISTRACTIVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.