Narrative:

I was assigned to fly my first air carrier overwater segment clt-sjn-clt. I had been to our overwater school and had thoroughly studied our overwater briefing guide and believe that I was knowledgeable of all the different requirements of overwater operation (omega navigation, not in radar contact, and HF communication procedures). The 2 flts went smoothly with no en route problems. Only after some subsequent discussion with a check airman and my chief pilot as well as reading some handouts that I had not seen beforehand, did I learn of some procedure errors that I had made. On both departures both HF radios were working properly to the best of my knowledge. We had established communication with the primary radio HF 1 and used it for all communication with north.Y. Oceanic. My chief pilot had requested that I check everything prior to completing the flts, so we made an unsuccessful attempt to communicate with HF 2 on the return leg. I wrote the radio up in the maintenance log book. Only later did I learn that my company wanted us to check both HF radios before the initial departure to ensure a backup in case the primary failed. The required position reports were listed on the dispatch release. We had made all of those reports, except when we had the established radar contact with mia or ZJX. Later I learned that the reports on the release are the only ones that have to be relayed to my company and that we are additionally required to make position reports at all intermediate waypoints. The last known procedure error was that I later learned that we were supposed to send to my company the release, fuel slip and position report log. I had all the documents, but disposed of them before I learned that we had to send them in. None of my entire crew had been on an overwater segment before. We had completed all the required training and were legal to complete the trip ourselves. However, in light of the fact that this was a totally new experience for all of us and that there was bound to be some details or procedures that we were not aware of in spite of the training and briefing guides, I should have insisted that an experienced check airman accompany us. We learn from our mistakes and I learned a lot form this one.

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Title: ACR PIC REPORTS NON COMPLIANCE WITH COMPANY PROC RECHECKING OF HF'S, REPORTING PROPER POSITION REPORTS AND FILING OF ALL PERTINENT FLT PAPERS.

Narrative: I WAS ASSIGNED TO FLY MY FIRST ACR OVERWATER SEGMENT CLT-SJN-CLT. I HAD BEEN TO OUR OVERWATER SCHOOL AND HAD THOROUGHLY STUDIED OUR OVERWATER BRIEFING GUIDE AND BELIEVE THAT I WAS KNOWLEDGEABLE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS OF OVERWATER OPERATION (OMEGA NAV, NOT IN RADAR CONTACT, AND HF COM PROCS). THE 2 FLTS WENT SMOOTHLY WITH NO ENRTE PROBS. ONLY AFTER SOME SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSION WITH A CHK AIRMAN AND MY CHIEF PLT AS WELL AS READING SOME HANDOUTS THAT I HAD NOT SEEN BEFOREHAND, DID I LEARN OF SOME PROC ERRORS THAT I HAD MADE. ON BOTH DEPS BOTH HF RADIOS WERE WORKING PROPERLY TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. WE HAD ESTABLISHED COM WITH THE PRIMARY RADIO HF 1 AND USED IT FOR ALL COM WITH N.Y. OCEANIC. MY CHIEF PLT HAD REQUESTED THAT I CHK EVERYTHING PRIOR TO COMPLETING THE FLTS, SO WE MADE AN UNSUCCESSFUL ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE WITH HF 2 ON THE RETURN LEG. I WROTE THE RADIO UP IN THE MAINT LOG BOOK. ONLY LATER DID I LEARN THAT MY COMPANY WANTED US TO CHK BOTH HF RADIOS BEFORE THE INITIAL DEP TO ENSURE A BACKUP IN CASE THE PRIMARY FAILED. THE REQUIRED POS RPTS WERE LISTED ON THE DISPATCH RELEASE. WE HAD MADE ALL OF THOSE RPTS, EXCEPT WHEN WE HAD THE ESTABLISHED RADAR CONTACT WITH MIA OR ZJX. LATER I LEARNED THAT THE RPTS ON THE RELEASE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE TO BE RELAYED TO MY COMPANY AND THAT WE ARE ADDITIONALLY REQUIRED TO MAKE POS RPTS AT ALL INTERMEDIATE WAYPOINTS. THE LAST KNOWN PROC ERROR WAS THAT I LATER LEARNED THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO SEND TO MY COMPANY THE RELEASE, FUEL SLIP AND POS RPT LOG. I HAD ALL THE DOCUMENTS, BUT DISPOSED OF THEM BEFORE I LEARNED THAT WE HAD TO SEND THEM IN. NONE OF MY ENTIRE CREW HAD BEEN ON AN OVERWATER SEGMENT BEFORE. WE HAD COMPLETED ALL THE REQUIRED TRNING AND WERE LEGAL TO COMPLETE THE TRIP OURSELVES. HOWEVER, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A TOTALLY NEW EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF US AND THAT THERE WAS BOUND TO BE SOME DETAILS OR PROCS THAT WE WERE NOT AWARE OF IN SPITE OF THE TRNING AND BRIEFING GUIDES, I SHOULD HAVE INSISTED THAT AN EXPERIENCED CHK AIRMAN ACCOMPANY US. WE LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES AND I LEARNED A LOT FORM THIS ONE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.