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Attributes | |
ACN | 137721 |
Time | |
Date | 199002 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mci |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mci |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 137721 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were being vectored and descending into kansas city international by approach control. Our position was abeam the airport on the west side. Approach control was vectoring and issuing dscnts to put us into a position for a visual approach to runway 19 at mci. Our general heading was 360 degrees and we were at 7000'. The problem was another aircraft that was in our path of descent. The exact altitude and position are not as important as the nature of this problem. The approach controller had this situation of conflict aircraft and did not now or did not decide the safest course of action. We never saw the other aircraft and were following approach's instructions. Approach control allowed us to get close to this other aircraft, and then stated we were not descending fast enough. Both pilots and controllers must consider safety to be paramount. If aircraft become too close, then one must be vectored to avoid conflict. Approach control had the only picture.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PLT COMPLAINS ABOUT ATC SERVICE.
Narrative: WE WERE BEING VECTORED AND DSNDING INTO KANSAS CITY INTL BY APCH CTL. OUR POS WAS ABEAM THE ARPT ON THE W SIDE. APCH CTL WAS VECTORING AND ISSUING DSCNTS TO PUT US INTO A POS FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 19 AT MCI. OUR GENERAL HDG WAS 360 DEGS AND WE WERE AT 7000'. THE PROB WAS ANOTHER ACFT THAT WAS IN OUR PATH OF DSCNT. THE EXACT ALT AND POS ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS THE NATURE OF THIS PROB. THE APCH CTLR HAD THIS SITUATION OF CONFLICT ACFT AND DID NOT NOW OR DID NOT DECIDE THE SAFEST COURSE OF ACTION. WE NEVER SAW THE OTHER ACFT AND WERE FOLLOWING APCH'S INSTRUCTIONS. APCH CTL ALLOWED US TO GET CLOSE TO THIS OTHER ACFT, AND THEN STATED WE WERE NOT DSNDING FAST ENOUGH. BOTH PLTS AND CTLRS MUST CONSIDER SAFETY TO BE PARAMOUNT. IF ACFT BECOME TOO CLOSE, THEN ONE MUST BE VECTORED TO AVOID CONFLICT. APCH CTL HAD THE ONLY PICTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.