Air carrier medium large transport flight crew unable to comply with crossing restriction on STAR.

Attributes
ACN	137950
Time
Date	199002
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : iah
State Reference	TX
Altitude	msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10750
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zhu
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 6600
ASRS Report	137950
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation
Situations
ATC Facility	other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

The captain was flying from phx to iah cugar 4 arrival. They held us to FL230 and gave us a descent clearance approximately 25 DME from crossing 10000' at 250 KTS at hoagi intersection. We descended at approximately 5000 FPM to get there and accommodate ATC. We told them around 16000' we were going to be a bit high at hoagi and all that was asked was, 'what is your rate of descent?' we replied, 'coming up on 5000 FPM now'. We crossed hoagi at 10300 at 260 KTS. The controller didn't say anything, it wasn't helping us crossing high.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG FLT CREW UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH CROSSING RESTRICTION ON STAR.

Narrative: THE CAPT WAS FLYING FROM PHX TO IAH CUGAR 4 ARR. THEY HELD US TO FL230 AND GAVE US A DSCNT CLRNC APPROX 25 DME FROM XING 10000' AT 250 KTS AT HOAGI INTXN. WE DESCENDED AT APPROX 5000 FPM TO GET THERE AND ACCOMMODATE ATC. WE TOLD THEM AROUND 16000' WE WERE GOING TO BE A BIT HIGH AT HOAGI AND ALL THAT WAS ASKED WAS, 'WHAT IS YOUR RATE OF DSCNT?' WE REPLIED, 'COMING UP ON 5000 FPM NOW'. WE CROSSED HOAGI AT 10300 AT 260 KTS. THE CTLR DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING, IT WASN'T HELPING US XING HIGH.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.