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Attributes | |
ACN | 1386031 |
Time | |
Date | 201609 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | N90.TRACON |
State Reference | NY |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 30 Flight Crew Total 4000 Flight Crew Type 400 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
After being vectored off of the jaike arrival to teb; ATC issued a descent below the floor of the class B (assigned 2;000 ft in the vicinity of the vaner intersection) and instructed us to maintain a speed of 210 knots. I informed them that we would be below the shelf of the class B and would be maintaining 200 knots.I have heard other flight crews mention being instructed to do the same thing when flying in the ny metro area. In contrast to N90 requesting that crews violate the speed restriction; A90 (atlanta TRACON) has been known to violate aircraft for exceeding the 200 knot restriction below the atlanta class B when arriving/departing satellite airports such as pdk; fty; etc. There should be consistency across the system; not an acceptance and expectation of 'local procedure.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Corporate Jet Captain instructed to maintain a speed of 210 KTS below the floor of the Class B airspace which is a violation of a FAR and would not comply.
Narrative: After being vectored off of the JAIKE arrival to TEB; ATC issued a descent below the floor of the Class B (assigned 2;000 ft in the vicinity of the VANER intersection) and instructed us to maintain a speed of 210 knots. I informed them that we would be below the shelf of the Class B and would be maintaining 200 knots.I have heard other flight crews mention being instructed to do the same thing when flying in the NY Metro area. In contrast to N90 requesting that crews violate the speed restriction; A90 (Atlanta TRACON) has been known to violate aircraft for exceeding the 200 knot restriction below the Atlanta Class B when arriving/departing satellite airports such as PDK; FTY; etc. There should be consistency across the system; not an acceptance and expectation of 'local procedure.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.