Air carrier X and Y late frequency change to ord approach by ZAU. Operational deviation.

Attributes
ACN	138932
Time
Date	199003
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : cgt
State Reference	IL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ord
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : direct enroute : on vectors enroute airway : ord enroute airway : zau
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors enroute : direct
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Experience	controller radar : 5
ASRS Report	138932
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation

Narrative:

During a heavy arrival period to mdw, I was working sector 1, an arrival position which handles the arrs from the southeast and feeds them to the final controller. The ZAU boone sector was handing off aircraft to me at 6000 and 7000' while sbn approach was handing off aircraft to me at 5000'. Because sector 4 at ord approach was being used, I was not able to descend any aircraft below 5000', to establish vertical sep, until 15 mi inside my airspace boundary. I had each handoff taken from the center at least 10 mi outside my airspace boundary but several aircraft were not changed to my frequency until well inside my airspace. Air carrier X medium large transport came on my frequency at 7000' and at 210 KTS. I had to slow air carrier X to 170 KTS on initial contact for traffic reasons. Air carrier Y medium large transport crossed the boundary about 6 mi behind air carrier X but communications were not transferred and spacing was closing rapidly. I was not able to descend air carrier X due to other traffic so I had to turn air carrier X to avoid a conflict. When air carrier Y finally came on my frequency, about 8 mi inside my boundary. I had to turn him 90 degrees and slow him to 170 KTS on initial contact to get in-trail with the other traffic. ZAU needs to start getting their traffic in-trail farther out from ord approach's boundary so that they can feed ord approach the traffic in an orderly and safe manner. Vectoring 5-10 mi inside another controller's airspace west/O coordination is an unsafe practice.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR X AND Y LATE FREQ CHANGE TO ORD APCH BY ZAU. OPERATIONAL DEVIATION.

Narrative: DURING A HEAVY ARR PERIOD TO MDW, I WAS WORKING SECTOR 1, AN ARR POS WHICH HANDLES THE ARRS FROM THE SE AND FEEDS THEM TO THE FINAL CTLR. THE ZAU BOONE SECTOR WAS HANDING OFF ACFT TO ME AT 6000 AND 7000' WHILE SBN APCH WAS HANDING OFF ACFT TO ME AT 5000'. BECAUSE SECTOR 4 AT ORD APCH WAS BEING USED, I WAS NOT ABLE TO DSND ANY ACFT BELOW 5000', TO ESTABLISH VERT SEP, UNTIL 15 MI INSIDE MY AIRSPACE BOUNDARY. I HAD EACH HDOF TAKEN FROM THE CENTER AT LEAST 10 MI OUTSIDE MY AIRSPACE BOUNDARY BUT SEVERAL ACFT WERE NOT CHANGED TO MY FREQ UNTIL WELL INSIDE MY AIRSPACE. ACR X MLG CAME ON MY FREQ AT 7000' AND AT 210 KTS. I HAD TO SLOW ACR X TO 170 KTS ON INITIAL CONTACT FOR TFC REASONS. ACR Y MLG CROSSED THE BOUNDARY ABOUT 6 MI BEHIND ACR X BUT COMS WERE NOT TRANSFERRED AND SPACING WAS CLOSING RAPIDLY. I WAS NOT ABLE TO DSND ACR X DUE TO OTHER TFC SO I HAD TO TURN ACR X TO AVOID A CONFLICT. WHEN ACR Y FINALLY CAME ON MY FREQ, ABOUT 8 MI INSIDE MY BOUNDARY. I HAD TO TURN HIM 90 DEGS AND SLOW HIM TO 170 KTS ON INITIAL CONTACT TO GET IN-TRAIL WITH THE OTHER TFC. ZAU NEEDS TO START GETTING THEIR TFC IN-TRAIL FARTHER OUT FROM ORD APCH'S BOUNDARY SO THAT THEY CAN FEED ORD APCH THE TFC IN AN ORDERLY AND SAFE MANNER. VECTORING 5-10 MI INSIDE ANOTHER CTLR'S AIRSPACE W/O COORD IS AN UNSAFE PRACTICE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.