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Attributes | |
ACN | 140037 |
Time | |
Date | 199003 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Heavy Transport, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 140037 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were in cruise flight at FL370 en route to iad when ATC ordered an immediate 30 degree right turn. They asked us several times to continue the turn (with great emphasis). They also turned an air carrier aircraft to the left. It appeared that we were on converging courses. We did not see the other aircraft until the conflict was over. We also offered to climb to FL390, which was approved. It appears that the incident was a 'screw-up' on the part of ATC. I wonder if the ATC person got that feeling in the pit of his gut like we get when we believe we screwed up and may be violated or worse.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR WAS ISSUED IMMEDIATE TURNS TO AVOID CONFLICTING TRAFFIC AT THE SAME ALT.
Narrative: WE WERE IN CRUISE FLT AT FL370 ENRTE TO IAD WHEN ATC ORDERED AN IMMEDIATE 30 DEG R TURN. THEY ASKED US SEVERAL TIMES TO CONTINUE THE TURN (WITH GREAT EMPHASIS). THEY ALSO TURNED AN ACR ACFT TO THE L. IT APPEARED THAT WE WERE ON CONVERGING COURSES. WE DID NOT SEE THE OTHER ACFT UNTIL THE CONFLICT WAS OVER. WE ALSO OFFERED TO CLB TO FL390, WHICH WAS APPROVED. IT APPEARS THAT THE INCIDENT WAS A 'SCREW-UP' ON THE PART OF ATC. I WONDER IF THE ATC PERSON GOT THAT FEELING IN THE PIT OF HIS GUT LIKE WE GET WHEN WE BELIEVE WE SCREWED UP AND MAY BE VIOLATED OR WORSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.