37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 141587 |
Time | |
Date | 199004 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pae |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sea tracon : btr |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 300 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 141587 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Small aircraft X was cruising on IFR clearance, 7000' on V23 after leaving anacortes, wa. Flight started with whidbey NAS control, followed by handoff to seattle TRACON. Seattle TRACON was very busy, providing rapid-fire instructions to many aircraft. Over paine VOR they called with what was interpreted a 'climb 12000''. Both reporter (pilot) and non-licensed, but flight experienced passenger, heard or thought they heard 'climb 12000''. Because this would be somewhat of an unusual profile in this area, readback using aircraft full identification 'nxxxx climbing 12000' instead of the abbreviated 'small aircraft X' that had been used since initial call-up. Within 2 mins, air carrier Y, widebody transport appeared on a parallel path descent on our starboard side. This was not a near miss, but likely an IFR separation violation. When air carrier Y was directly off starboard wing, he was 4000-6000' horizontal and estimated less than 2000' vertical (above) in descent. Small aircraft X was about 7500' and climbing. Vertical separation became 0 as jet continued descent forward (ahead) of reporting aircraft. Controller must have also noticed conflict about the same time as we visually observed. He instructed 'small aircraft X, descent 7000', turn left 120 degree.' no other comments were made. Immediately after, a new controller took over, and flight continued normally.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA X HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION FROM ACR Y. SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: SMA X WAS CRUISING ON IFR CLRNC, 7000' ON V23 AFTER LEAVING ANACORTES, WA. FLT STARTED WITH WHIDBEY NAS CTL, FOLLOWED BY HANDOFF TO SEATTLE TRACON. SEATTLE TRACON WAS VERY BUSY, PROVIDING RAPID-FIRE INSTRUCTIONS TO MANY ACFT. OVER PAINE VOR THEY CALLED WITH WHAT WAS INTERPRETED A 'CLIMB 12000''. BOTH RPTR (PLT) AND NON-LICENSED, BUT FLT EXPERIENCED PAX, HEARD OR THOUGHT THEY HEARD 'CLIMB 12000''. BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE SOMEWHAT OF AN UNUSUAL PROFILE IN THIS AREA, READBACK USING ACFT FULL ID 'NXXXX CLIMBING 12000' INSTEAD OF THE ABBREVIATED 'SMA X' THAT HAD BEEN USED SINCE INITIAL CALL-UP. WITHIN 2 MINS, ACR Y, WDB APPEARED ON A PARALLEL PATH DSNT ON OUR STARBOARD SIDE. THIS WAS NOT A NEAR MISS, BUT LIKELY AN IFR SEPARATION VIOLATION. WHEN ACR Y WAS DIRECTLY OFF STARBOARD WING, HE WAS 4000-6000' HORIZONTAL AND ESTIMATED LESS THAN 2000' VERTICAL (ABOVE) IN DSNT. SMA X WAS ABOUT 7500' AND CLIMBING. VERTICAL SEPARATION BECAME 0 AS JET CONTINUED DSNT FORWARD (AHEAD) OF REPORTING ACFT. CTLR MUST HAVE ALSO NOTICED CONFLICT ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS WE VISUALLY OBSERVED. HE INSTRUCTED 'SMA X, DSNT 7000', TURN LEFT 120 DEG.' NO OTHER COMMENTS WERE MADE. IMMEDIATELY AFTER, A NEW CTLR TOOK OVER, AND FLT CONTINUED NORMALLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.