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Attributes | |
ACN | 141990 |
Time | |
Date | 199004 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gcts |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : lppo |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Heavy Transport, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 141990 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Situation exists for entry into nat mnps without clearance. The position in question is where three firs join sal, canaries, and santa maria. There was no overlap of frequencys (no evidence of either control monitoring the other's xmissions). In attempting to contact santa maria prior to fir I was transmitting on HF 8861. Santa maria monitors 8864 but no controller responded that I was on the wrong frequency. Other santa maria frequencys were unusable. By the time I contacted santa maria for an oceanic clearance into nat mnps, I had already crossed into the santa maria cta/fir. Clearance was received and flight continued without incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HVT ENTERED SANTA MARIA FIR WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: SITUATION EXISTS FOR ENTRY INTO NAT MNPS WITHOUT CLRNC. THE POSITION IN QUESTION IS WHERE THREE FIRS JOIN SAL, CANARIES, AND SANTA MARIA. THERE WAS NO OVERLAP OF FREQS (NO EVIDENCE OF EITHER CTL MONITORING THE OTHER'S XMISSIONS). IN ATTEMPTING TO CONTACT SANTA MARIA PRIOR TO FIR I WAS TRANSMITTING ON HF 8861. SANTA MARIA MONITORS 8864 BUT NO CTLR RESPONDED THAT I WAS ON THE WRONG FREQ. OTHER SANTA MARIA FREQS WERE UNUSABLE. BY THE TIME I CONTACTED SANTA MARIA FOR AN OCEANIC CLRNC INTO NAT MNPS, I HAD ALREADY CROSSED INTO THE SANTA MARIA CTA/FIR. CLRNC WAS RECEIVED AND FLT CONTINUED WITHOUT INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.