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Attributes | |
ACN | 1423184 |
Time | |
Date | 201702 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAS.Airport |
State Reference | NV |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Route In Use | None |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Ground Instructor |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 13 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Ground Incursion Taxiway |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was given taxi instructions after crossing runway 25R; to taxi via bravo; bravo 5 and charlie to the ramp. Aircraft Y was also inbound to the ramp but missed their turn. The cpc-it gave instructions to aircraft Y to taxi via C4; B; and C6 to the ramp. The cpc-it then told aircraft X to give way to aircraft Y at C6 and contact the ramp (aircraft X had made a few attempts on our ground frequency to contact the ramp.) aircraft X acknowledged their instructions and advised us they had been attempting to contact ramp control but nobody answered them and they did not want to enter the ramp without authorization. Right after that transmission; somebody keyed up on the frequency and stated; 'aircraft X; you have been calling on ground'.the timing of that transmission as well as the demeanor of the transmission lead me to believe that the ramp controller keyed up on the ground frequency (121.1) and made that transmission. I was performing ojti at the time. I reported the incident to my flm (front line manager) and OM (operations manager). My recommendation is to not let a ramp controller have the ability to key up an FAA frequency. I would also change the current LOA between the two facilities to have the ground controller issue a ramp entry point and no longer have airlines contact ramp control on the movement area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LAS Ground Controller reported a communication breakdown between a Ramp Controller and flight crew.
Narrative: Aircraft X was given taxi instructions after crossing Runway 25R; to taxi via Bravo; Bravo 5 and Charlie to the ramp. Aircraft Y was also inbound to the ramp but missed their turn. The CPC-IT gave instructions to Aircraft Y to taxi via C4; B; and C6 to the ramp. The CPC-IT then told Aircraft X to give way to Aircraft Y at C6 and contact the ramp (Aircraft X had made a few attempts on our ground frequency to contact the ramp.) Aircraft X acknowledged their instructions and advised us they had been attempting to contact ramp control but nobody answered them and they did not want to enter the ramp without authorization. Right after that transmission; somebody keyed up on the frequency and stated; 'Aircraft X; you have been calling on ground'.The timing of that transmission as well as the demeanor of the transmission lead me to believe that the ramp controller keyed up on the ground frequency (121.1) and made that transmission. I was performing OJTI at the time. I reported the incident to my FLM (Front Line Manager) and OM (Operations Manager). My recommendation is to not let a ramp controller have the ability to key up an FAA frequency. I would also change the current LOA between the two facilities to have the ground controller issue a ramp entry point and no longer have airlines contact ramp control on the movement area.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.