Conflict between air carrier medium large transport captain and ARTCC radar controller over WX diver...

Attributes
ACN	145497
Time
Date	199005
Day	Sun
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : ric
State Reference	VA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 19000
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zdc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 7500
ASRS Report	145497
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

After departing ric for bwi landing controller cleared us from FL230 to FL190. I (captain) advised controller that we were requesting direct to ott VOR due to WX. Controller advised we had to stay on arwy. I replied we could only attempt to stay on arwy for another 5-10 mi. 5 mi from penetration into a line and a major cell (5 mi wide) I advised we needed to turn to 060 degrees immediately. Supervisor came on and gave me a short dissertation on dca arrival flows. I requested a 360 degree turn or I was turning to 060 degrees 'now.' frequency change was given and next controller advised I could 'deviate as necessary, direct ott when able.' previous controller was more preoccupied with arrival routes than sending aircraft through major storm. I was not about to penetrate this storm with clear WX 30-40 degrees to my right (with 75 passenger on board). Very poor cooperation during bad WX conditions. I'll cooperate as much as possible with controller, but I will not jeopardize the safety of my aircraft and people.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CONFLICT BETWEEN ACR MLG CAPT AND ARTCC RADAR CTLR OVER WX DIVERSION.

Narrative: AFTER DEPARTING RIC FOR BWI LNDG CTLR CLRED US FROM FL230 TO FL190. I (CAPT) ADVISED CTLR THAT WE WERE REQUESTING DIRECT TO OTT VOR DUE TO WX. CTLR ADVISED WE HAD TO STAY ON ARWY. I REPLIED WE COULD ONLY ATTEMPT TO STAY ON ARWY FOR ANOTHER 5-10 MI. 5 MI FROM PENETRATION INTO A LINE AND A MAJOR CELL (5 MI WIDE) I ADVISED WE NEEDED TO TURN TO 060 DEGS IMMEDIATELY. SUPVR CAME ON AND GAVE ME A SHORT DISSERTATION ON DCA ARR FLOWS. I REQUESTED A 360 DEG TURN OR I WAS TURNING TO 060 DEGS 'NOW.' FREQ CHANGE WAS GIVEN AND NEXT CTLR ADVISED I COULD 'DEVIATE AS NECESSARY, DIRECT OTT WHEN ABLE.' PREVIOUS CTLR WAS MORE PREOCCUPIED WITH ARR ROUTES THAN SENDING ACFT THROUGH MAJOR STORM. I WAS NOT ABOUT TO PENETRATE THIS STORM WITH CLEAR WX 30-40 DEGS TO MY RIGHT (WITH 75 PAX ON BOARD). VERY POOR COOPERATION DURING BAD WX CONDITIONS. I'LL COOPERATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH CTLR, BUT I WILL NOT JEOPARDIZE THE SAFETY OF MY ACFT AND PEOPLE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Conflict between air carrier medium large transport captain and ARTCC radar controller over WX diversion.