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Attributes | |
ACN | 145624 |
Time | |
Date | 199005 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7200 msl bound upper : 7200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : mdw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 16450 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 145624 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 5000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X on a milton 5 arrival to lga. Just past solberg lga assigned heading 150 degree and airspeed 210 KTS for sequencing. As we approached 7000' on descent, traffic was issued at 2 O'clock which we saw simultaneously. Traffic was air carrier Y, medium large transport, and it appeared to be within a mi crossing in front of us, heading of air carrier Y was approximately 060 degree and descending also. No evasive action was required however, normal sep seemed to be compromised. We followed air carrier Y for approach and landing at lga. I think the controller compromised normal sep and then failed to issue traffic to us in a timely manner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POSSIBLE LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN ACR X AND Y. POSSIBLE SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X ON A MILTON 5 ARR TO LGA. JUST PAST SOLBERG LGA ASSIGNED HDG 150 DEG AND AIRSPD 210 KTS FOR SEQUENCING. AS WE APCHED 7000' ON DSNT, TFC WAS ISSUED AT 2 O'CLOCK WHICH WE SAW SIMULTANEOUSLY. TFC WAS ACR Y, MLG, AND IT APPEARED TO BE WITHIN A MI XING IN FRONT OF US, HDG OF ACR Y WAS APPROX 060 DEG AND DSNDING ALSO. NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS REQUIRED HOWEVER, NORMAL SEP SEEMED TO BE COMPROMISED. WE FOLLOWED ACR Y FOR APCH AND LNDG AT LGA. I THINK THE CTLR COMPROMISED NORMAL SEP AND THEN FAILED TO ISSUE TFC TO US IN A TIMELY MANNER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.