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Attributes | |
ACN | 146017 |
Time | |
Date | 199005 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sfo airport : apa |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 275 |
ASRS Report | 146017 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 88 flight time type : 88 |
ASRS Report | 146016 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Student requested transit of the TCA (sfo) for training purposes (private pilot) from apc to sjc, landing at sjc. Proceeding on a heading of 180 degrees, climbing to 5500' from apc, controller gave us a squawk and told us to proceed, giving us traffic advisories. He then notified us that we were entering the TCA unauthorized. I misunderstood him, feeling that his clearance to 'proceed' gave us clearance to continue into the TCA. I was wrong! He told us to turn left and depart the TCA, then remain at 3500'. We did follow his instructions. I now understand that I had to hear the words 'cleared to enter the TCA.' I was the flight instrument on board.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LICENSED STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR MISUNDERSTAND ATC INSTRUCTIONS AND PENETRATE SFO TCA.
Narrative: STUDENT REQUESTED TRANSIT OF THE TCA (SFO) FOR TRNING PURPOSES (PVT PLT) FROM APC TO SJC, LNDG AT SJC. PROCEEDING ON A HDG OF 180 DEGS, CLBING TO 5500' FROM APC, CTLR GAVE US A SQUAWK AND TOLD US TO PROCEED, GIVING US TFC ADVISORIES. HE THEN NOTIFIED US THAT WE WERE ENTERING THE TCA UNAUTH. I MISUNDERSTOOD HIM, FEELING THAT HIS CLRNC TO 'PROCEED' GAVE US CLRNC TO CONTINUE INTO THE TCA. I WAS WRONG! HE TOLD US TO TURN LEFT AND DEPART THE TCA, THEN REMAIN AT 3500'. WE DID FOLLOW HIS INSTRUCTIONS. I NOW UNDERSTAND THAT I HAD TO HEAR THE WORDS 'CLRED TO ENTER THE TCA.' I WAS THE FLT INSTR ON BOARD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.