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Attributes | |
ACN | 146911 |
Time | |
Date | 199005 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mzb |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : san tower : lga |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 216 flight time total : 9226 flight time type : 3167 |
ASRS Report | 146911 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3100 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 146900 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 225 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Level at 8000' we began to intercept our assigned 148 degree right of seal beach VOR. We had heard the traffic behind our flight to be commuter bab. Flight bab was to maintain visibility contact with our aircraft. While the first officer was flying the aircraft, I monitored the engine INS to set the proper torque calculations. Out of my sight to the left side of our flight, I noticed flight bab fly into our immediate flight path crossing our 10-12 O'clock position spacing of only 200'. Most unprofessional and dangerous! Violation? From our standpoint this seemed to be intentional, and most unprofessional. Had we not joined the arwy, our mdt would have made immediate impact with the commuter light transport. It was a blatant and unprofessional maneuver. Such action should require violation procedures, and possible reprimands. Yes, it involves see and be seen vigilance, but this error was done west/O safety in mind. I certainly hope that our passenger did not feel we were at fault. After calling the FAA and FSDO in la, I feel that our complaint should have been dealt with on a more serious note, although the FAA's help was greatly appreciated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER LTT CUT IN FRONT OF COMMUTER MDT WITHOUT MAINTAINING ADEQUATE VISUAL SEPARATION.
Narrative: LEVEL AT 8000' WE BEGAN TO INTERCEPT OUR ASSIGNED 148 DEG R OF SEAL BEACH VOR. WE HAD HEARD THE TFC BEHIND OUR FLT TO BE COMMUTER BAB. FLT BAB WAS TO MAINTAIN VIS CONTACT WITH OUR ACFT. WHILE THE F/O WAS FLYING THE ACFT, I MONITORED THE ENG INS TO SET THE PROPER TORQUE CALCULATIONS. OUT OF MY SIGHT TO THE LEFT SIDE OF OUR FLT, I NOTICED FLT BAB FLY INTO OUR IMMEDIATE FLT PATH XING OUR 10-12 O'CLOCK POS SPACING OF ONLY 200'. MOST UNPROFESSIONAL AND DANGEROUS! VIOLATION? FROM OUR STANDPOINT THIS SEEMED TO BE INTENTIONAL, AND MOST UNPROFESSIONAL. HAD WE NOT JOINED THE ARWY, OUR MDT WOULD HAVE MADE IMMEDIATE IMPACT WITH THE COMMUTER LTT. IT WAS A BLATANT AND UNPROFESSIONAL MANEUVER. SUCH ACTION SHOULD REQUIRE VIOLATION PROCS, AND POSSIBLE REPRIMANDS. YES, IT INVOLVES SEE AND BE SEEN VIGILANCE, BUT THIS ERROR WAS DONE W/O SAFETY IN MIND. I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT OUR PAX DID NOT FEEL WE WERE AT FAULT. AFTER CALLING THE FAA AND FSDO IN LA, I FEEL THAT OUR COMPLAINT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE, ALTHOUGH THE FAA'S HELP WAS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.