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Attributes | |
ACN | 148210 |
Time | |
Date | 199006 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lal |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zma |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time total : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 148210 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 148945 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While on descent to 15000', ZMA cleared us to cross 10 NM northeast of lal VOR at 10000' and 250 KTS. At approximately 11300' ZMA asked if we were maintaining 13000'. We replied that we were assigned 10000'. On arrival at mco we called ZMA on the landline and talked to the supervisor for that sector and discussed it with him. The supervisor said he wasn't sure what was on tapes but that 10 NM northeast lal at 13000' was the standard clearance. Supplemental information from acn 148945: the controller said to climb immediately back to 13000', which we did.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT ALT OVERSHOT IN DESCENT.
Narrative: WHILE ON DSNT TO 15000', ZMA CLRED US TO CROSS 10 NM NE OF LAL VOR AT 10000' AND 250 KTS. AT APPROX 11300' ZMA ASKED IF WE WERE MAINTAINING 13000'. WE REPLIED THAT WE WERE ASSIGNED 10000'. ON ARR AT MCO WE CALLED ZMA ON THE LANDLINE AND TALKED TO THE SUPVR FOR THAT SECTOR AND DISCUSSED IT WITH HIM. THE SUPVR SAID HE WASN'T SURE WHAT WAS ON TAPES BUT THAT 10 NM NE LAL AT 13000' WAS THE STANDARD CLRNC. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 148945: THE CTLR SAID TO CLB IMMEDIATELY BACK TO 13000', WHICH WE DID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.