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Attributes | |
ACN | 148430 |
Time | |
Date | 199006 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 148430 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Approaching cvg at 10000', approach control cleared us to descend and slow to 210 KTS. Copilot read back, 'descend to 6000' and slow to 210.' approach responded, 'make that 7000' now.' passing 7600' on descent, approach told us to maintain 8000', and we advised we would climb back up and questioned his earlier clearance to 7000'. He mentioned traffic at 7000', which we had in sight, and said he cleared us to 8000'. The traffic was not a factor, yet there might have been confusion after our cleared descent when the aircraft at 7000' could not comply with approach control's instructions for their approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION.
Narrative: APCHING CVG AT 10000', APCH CTL CLRED US TO DSND AND SLOW TO 210 KTS. COPLT READ BACK, 'DSND TO 6000' AND SLOW TO 210.' APCH RESPONDED, 'MAKE THAT 7000' NOW.' PASSING 7600' ON DSNT, APCH TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 8000', AND WE ADVISED WE WOULD CLB BACK UP AND QUESTIONED HIS EARLIER CLRNC TO 7000'. HE MENTIONED TFC AT 7000', WHICH WE HAD IN SIGHT, AND SAID HE CLRED US TO 8000'. THE TFC WAS NOT A FACTOR, YET THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONFUSION AFTER OUR CLRED DSNT WHEN THE ACFT AT 7000' COULD NOT COMPLY WITH APCH CTL'S INSTRUCTIONS FOR THEIR APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.