Lancair pilot reported receiving an IFR clearance via vors and airways when they were prepared to fl...

Attributes
ACN	1485972
Time
Date	201709
Local Time Of Day	0601-1200
Place
Locale Reference	SCT.TRACON
State Reference	CA
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Lancair Legacy
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	Initial Approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Pilot Flying Single Pilot
Qualification	Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 40 Flight Crew Total 2500 Flight Crew Type 700
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy

Narrative:

Socal approach is using outdated arrival procedures that are only obscurely published; failing to take advantage of modern equipment and databases; and thereby imposing unnecessary workload (and therefore hazard) on arriving aircrew. Furthermore; they are unable or unwilling to tell a pilot as little as 10 minutes before joining an instrument approach which approach will be used. Conversations with other pilots and personal experience from 10 years prior indicate that this is standard procedure for socal and has been brought to their attention previously.the arrival procedures in question turn out to be tower enroute control clearances; which are verbally dictated to the aircrew and sometimes changed midway through the arrival (although a STAR exists). The report also documents socal's clearance for a 110-degree turn onto final contrary to guidance in faah 7110.65 and without any prior warning to the pilot resulting in a serious overshoot of the final approach course.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: Lancair pilot reported receiving an IFR clearance via VORs and airways when they were prepared to fly the published STAR. They were issued a VOR Approach which required a steep turn to the IAF which the pilot felt was in violation of ATC procedures.

Narrative: SoCal approach is using outdated arrival procedures that are only obscurely published; failing to take advantage of modern equipment and databases; and thereby imposing unnecessary workload (and therefore hazard) on arriving aircrew. Furthermore; they are unable or unwilling to tell a pilot as little as 10 minutes before joining an instrument approach which approach will be used. Conversations with other pilots and personal experience from 10 years prior indicate that this is standard procedure for SoCal and has been brought to their attention previously.The arrival procedures in question turn out to be Tower Enroute Control clearances; which are verbally dictated to the aircrew and sometimes changed midway through the arrival (although a STAR exists). The report also documents SoCal's clearance for a 110-degree turn onto final contrary to guidance in FAAH 7110.65 and without any prior warning to the pilot resulting in a serious overshoot of the final approach course.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Lancair pilot reported receiving an IFR clearance via vors and airways when they were prepared to fly the published STAR. They were issued a VOR approach which required a steep turn to the IAF which the pilot felt was in violation of ATC procedures.