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Attributes | |
ACN | 1494957 |
Time | |
Date | 201711 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SBY.Airport |
State Reference | MD |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER/LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 178 Flight Crew Total 1250 Flight Crew Type 237 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 40 Flight Crew Total 5000 Flight Crew Type 250 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
On approach the flight crew was told the weather was 800 ft overcast. We planned for the ILS approach. The PF (pilot flying) wanted flaps 22 but since it is a short runway and raining out flaps 45 was all we could do. Starting the approach the auto pilot started to 'hunt/fish' for the localizer so the PF elected to hand fly the approach. Coming through 1;000 ft the pm (pilot monitoring) made the 1;000 ft call and was stable and we continued. The PF was descending on glide slope and about a 1/2 dot right deflection of the localizer but a little fast on the airspeed in reference to planned approach speed. Coming through 800 ft pm announced runway position as 11 O clock in sight. PF looked up to confirm but could not see; asked for the wipers. Once the wipers were on the PF was able to identify the runway. Once visual the PF got slow on the airspeed; the 'don't sink' annunciation was heard. The PF elected to continue and corrected the issue and landed safety.the PF from my experience was only used to doing flaps 22 approaches since that was what he had asked for all day. Also the PF's hand flying ability might have been rusty since he seemed to rely on the auto pilot in our previous flights. The pm was not sure what to do. The reaction of the PF was to continue. Looking back pm would have called a go around from the start of the situation and will do so from now on.suggest that hand flying is more suggested to the pilot group to keep skills sharp when they are needed. Encourage or mandate flaps 45 approaches. Winter is coming and someone will slide off a runway if they do flaps 22 on a short runway. Even if it is the captains leg either pilot should call a go around and first officer's should be encouraged to do so.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB-145 flight crew reported landing after an unstable approach.
Narrative: On approach the flight crew was told the weather was 800 ft overcast. We planned for the ILS Approach. The PF (Pilot Flying) wanted flaps 22 but since it is a short runway and raining out flaps 45 was all we could do. Starting the approach the auto pilot started to 'Hunt/Fish' for the Localizer so the PF elected to hand fly the approach. Coming through 1;000 ft the PM (Pilot Monitoring) made the 1;000 ft call and was stable and we continued. The PF was descending on glide slope and about a 1/2 dot right deflection of the localizer but a little fast on the airspeed in reference to planned approach speed. Coming through 800 ft PM announced runway position as 11 O clock in sight. PF looked up to confirm but could not see; asked for the wipers. Once the wipers were on the PF was able to identify the runway. Once visual the PF got slow on the airspeed; the 'Don't Sink' annunciation was heard. The PF elected to continue and corrected the issue and landed safety.The PF from my experience was only used to doing flaps 22 approaches since that was what he had asked for all day. Also the PF's hand flying ability might have been rusty since he seemed to rely on the auto pilot in our previous flights. The PM was not sure what to do. The reaction of the PF was to continue. Looking back PM would have called a go around from the start of the situation and will do so from now on.Suggest that hand flying is more suggested to the pilot group to keep skills sharp when they are needed. Encourage or mandate flaps 45 approaches. Winter is coming and someone will slide off a runway if they do flaps 22 on a short runway. Even if it is the Captains leg either pilot should call a go around and FO's should be encouraged to do so.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.