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Attributes | |
ACN | 1506429 |
Time | |
Date | 201712 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Environment | |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | No Aircraft |
Flight Phase | Other Non-Flight |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We were scheduled to operate a flight with a show time [before 5 am]. As we were walking out the door; I received a phone call from scheduling. They stated our show time had been pushed back [6 hours]. They still have us scheduled to complete our trip; which has us scheduled for a 14:27 hour duty day. Far 117 has us a maximum duty day of 12 hours plus the two hour extension if we agree to it. They are circumnavigating this rule by converting us to short call; which is not reflected on our schedule allowing them to add four hours to the rap; which brings us to 16 hours of duty. As line holders; this should not be allowed. We were not notified until we were leaving the hotel; which resulted in us being ready to go; and unable to go back to sleep. They knew about this last night and did not contact us. They should not be allowed to do this; the far 117 rules exist for a reason. Converting us from line holders to a rap of 16 hours when we are awake for the entire portion is not okay.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Carrier First Officer pilot reported that after resting and getting ready for an early morning flight; scheduling called and pushed back the show time past the maximum duty day.
Narrative: We were scheduled to operate a flight with a show time [before 5 am]. As we were walking out the door; I received a phone call from scheduling. They stated our show time had been pushed back [6 hours]. They still have us scheduled to complete our trip; which has us scheduled for a 14:27 hour duty day. FAR 117 has us a maximum duty day of 12 hours plus the two hour extension if we agree to it. They are circumnavigating this rule by converting us to short call; which is not reflected on our schedule allowing them to add four hours to the RAP; which brings us to 16 hours of duty. As line holders; this should not be allowed. We were not notified until we were leaving the hotel; which resulted in us being ready to go; and unable to go back to sleep. They knew about this last night and did not contact us. They should not be allowed to do this; the FAR 117 rules exist for a reason. Converting us from line holders to a RAP of 16 hours when we are awake for the entire portion is not okay.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.