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Attributes | |
ACN | 1509624 |
Time | |
Date | 201801 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | TUS.Airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL601 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Fighting Falcon F16 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 45 Flight Crew Total 21800 Flight Crew Type 4530 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 100 Flight Crew Total 14250 Flight Crew Type 925 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict NMAC Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 25 Vertical 75 |
Narrative:
A near miss occurred when an F16 flew right over the top of our aircraft and then turned left into a down wind. The F16 approached our aircraft from the rear as we were on our initial climb out of tus; I estimate that our aircraft was about 3;500 to 3;800 feet MSL (climbing about 1;800 feet per minute and speed at 185 knots) when the F16 pass right over top of our aircraft with no TCAS alerts (TA) or no advisement of the traffic by the tower. We; the crew; knew that there were military aircraft in the area as we listen to the tower give the military information about other traffic in area; shortly after we were given takeoff clearance with no mention of traffic for our departure. The only communication with and from the tower was us advising the tower of a near miss; after arriving at destination we called the tower at tus to talk with tower chief still waiting a call back.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL60 flight crew reported a NMAC situation with a flight of 4 F16's. Pilot reported ATC's lack of advisories to them; and failure to provide separation. ATC reported following local SOP; and in compliance with FAA orders and directives.
Narrative: A near miss occurred when an F16 flew right over the top of our aircraft and then turned left into a down wind. The F16 approached our aircraft from the rear as we were on our initial climb out of TUS; I estimate that our aircraft was about 3;500 to 3;800 feet MSL (climbing about 1;800 feet per minute and speed at 185 knots) when the F16 pass right over top of our aircraft with no TCAS alerts (TA) or no advisement of the traffic by the tower. We; the crew; knew that there were Military aircraft in the area as we listen to the tower give the military information about other traffic in area; shortly after we were given takeoff clearance with no mention of traffic for our departure. The only communication with and from the tower was us advising the tower of a near miss; after arriving at destination we called the tower at TUS to talk with tower chief still waiting a call back.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.