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Attributes | |
ACN | 151548 |
Time | |
Date | 199007 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : prc |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 800 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : prc |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 180 flight time type : 130 |
ASRS Report | 151548 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was in a part 141 plane in right close traffic for runway 21. I heard another plane, small aircraft Y calling a 5 mi 45 entry to downwind. I looked but could not pick up until he called a 2 mi 45 degree. At that point I saw his position was not moving across a point on my windscreen. I rolled my wings then attempted a call to the tower to tell my position. As I became aware that the 45 degree traffic small aircraft Y did not see me I called his number and told my position over tower frequency. As before, I got stepped on by other calls, as I found out later. At this point, I descended 200' below traffic pattern altitude as he passed over the top of me. Then he became aware of me and widened out his downwind. Tower then asked him if he had me in sight. I talked to the other pilot on the ground and we agreed that if I had not descended we would have collided. This is the standard way to enter the pattern. We both feel that ATC might have advised us each that another plane was in the area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN 2 SMA'S IN TRAFFIC PATTERN AT PRC.
Narrative: I WAS IN A PART 141 PLANE IN R CLOSE TFC FOR RWY 21. I HEARD ANOTHER PLANE, SMA Y CALLING A 5 MI 45 ENTRY TO DOWNWIND. I LOOKED BUT COULD NOT PICK UP UNTIL HE CALLED A 2 MI 45 DEG. AT THAT POINT I SAW HIS POS WAS NOT MOVING ACROSS A POINT ON MY WINDSCREEN. I ROLLED MY WINGS THEN ATTEMPTED A CALL TO THE TWR TO TELL MY POS. AS I BECAME AWARE THAT THE 45 DEG TFC SMA Y DID NOT SEE ME I CALLED HIS NUMBER AND TOLD MY POS OVER TWR FREQ. AS BEFORE, I GOT STEPPED ON BY OTHER CALLS, AS I FOUND OUT LATER. AT THIS POINT, I DSNDED 200' BELOW TFC PATTERN ALT AS HE PASSED OVER THE TOP OF ME. THEN HE BECAME AWARE OF ME AND WIDENED OUT HIS DOWNWIND. TWR THEN ASKED HIM IF HE HAD ME IN SIGHT. I TALKED TO THE OTHER PLT ON THE GND AND WE AGREED THAT IF I HAD NOT DSNDED WE WOULD HAVE COLLIDED. THIS IS THE STANDARD WAY TO ENTER THE PATTERN. WE BOTH FEEL THAT ATC MIGHT HAVE ADVISED US EACH THAT ANOTHER PLANE WAS IN THE AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.