Pilot was unable to comply with SID restriction.

Attributes
ACN	151701
Time
Date	199007
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : pom airport : ont
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 14000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ont
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure sid : sid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8490 flight time type : 3200
ASRS Report	151701
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2500
ASRS Report	151616
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Pom 4 departure from ont issued by ATC clearance delivery. 19 NM west of pom VOR on 274 degree right is a restriction to cross at 14000' MSL. Altitude assigned by ATC clearance delivery was 14000' MSL. On taxi-out, ground revised assigned altitude to 10000' MSL. Upon takeoff clearance, we were assigned to maintain 5000' MSL. First departure controller said to cross pom VOR below 8000' MSL, maintain 10000' MSL. We complied. 12 NM west of pom VOR, departure said to cross 19 DME fix west of pom VOR at 14000' MSL. We were climbing through approximately 8400' MSL. I had the first officer advise departure that we could not make the restriction. He was then upset and asked if we had advised ground controllers that we could not make the restriction. The first officer replied no. We could have made the restriction if ATC had not given us the 2 previous restrictions in altitude. The 14000' crossing restriction had ben negated by ATC assigning us 10000' MSL on taxi, and then 5000' with takeoff clearance. There was no way we could have climbed from 8500' MSL to 14000' MSL in 7 mi at 164000# gross weight.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLT WAS UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH SID RESTRICTION.

Narrative: POM 4 DEP FROM ONT ISSUED BY ATC CLRNC DELIVERY. 19 NM W OF POM VOR ON 274 DEG R IS A RESTRICTION TO CROSS AT 14000' MSL. ALT ASSIGNED BY ATC CLRNC DELIVERY WAS 14000' MSL. ON TAXI-OUT, GND REVISED ASSIGNED ALT TO 10000' MSL. UPON TKOF CLRNC, WE WERE ASSIGNED TO MAINTAIN 5000' MSL. FIRST DEP CTLR SAID TO CROSS POM VOR BELOW 8000' MSL, MAINTAIN 10000' MSL. WE COMPLIED. 12 NM W OF POM VOR, DEP SAID TO CROSS 19 DME FIX W OF POM VOR AT 14000' MSL. WE WERE CLBING THROUGH APPROX 8400' MSL. I HAD THE F/O ADVISE DEP THAT WE COULD NOT MAKE THE RESTRICTION. HE WAS THEN UPSET AND ASKED IF WE HAD ADVISED GND CTLRS THAT WE COULD NOT MAKE THE RESTRICTION. THE F/O REPLIED NO. WE COULD HAVE MADE THE RESTRICTION IF ATC HAD NOT GIVEN US THE 2 PREVIOUS RESTRICTIONS IN ALT. THE 14000' XING RESTRICTION HAD BEN NEGATED BY ATC ASSIGNING US 10000' MSL ON TAXI, AND THEN 5000' WITH TKOF CLRNC. THERE WAS NO WAY WE COULD HAVE CLBED FROM 8500' MSL TO 14000' MSL IN 7 MI AT 164000# GROSS WT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.