PIC of act medium large transport accepts ckp recommendation about circling approach into dut then c...

Attributes
ACN	153099
Time
Date	199008
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : dut
State Reference	AK
Altitude	agl bound lower : 300 agl bound upper : 300
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zan tower : ewr
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other descent other
Route In Use	approach : circling
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 14000
ASRS Report	153099
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

The main point I want to get across is the errors which can develop with a check airman in jumpseat. Our initial approach into dut was NDB a from overhead we had field in sight and were then cleared for contact approach, while maneuvering from left traffic for runway 30 it became apparent scattered fog would present normal approach and landing. Check airman in jumpseat giving me my line check into dut begins telling me to have plenty of room to maneuver under the fog over the bay to the west for landing runway 12. He keeps coaching me under the fog by the time I get under the fog we are ot 300' over the water maneuvering downwind base final landing was operations normal except for our circling way below minimums. I have 5 yrs of experience landing at dut and did not need any coaching. By doing that the check airman talked me into doing something I would not have otherwise done, circle below minimums. Jumpseat rider check airman or not should not coach or help out an experienced captain. Let him make his own decisions, that's how he got where he is at.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PIC OF ACT MLG ACCEPTS CKP RECOMMENDATION ABOUT CIRCLING APCH INTO DUT THEN COMPLAINS THAT HE WAS COERCED INTO FLYING AT TOO LOW AN ALT DURING THE APCH.

Narrative: THE MAIN POINT I WANT TO GET ACROSS IS THE ERRORS WHICH CAN DEVELOP WITH A CHK AIRMAN IN JUMPSEAT. OUR INITIAL APCH INTO DUT WAS NDB A FROM OVERHEAD WE HAD FIELD IN SIGHT AND WERE THEN CLRED FOR CONTACT APCH, WHILE MANEUVERING FROM L TFC FOR RWY 30 IT BECAME APPARENT SCATTERED FOG WOULD PRESENT NORMAL APCH AND LNDG. CHK AIRMAN IN JUMPSEAT GIVING ME MY LINE CHK INTO DUT BEGINS TELLING ME TO HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO MANEUVER UNDER THE FOG OVER THE BAY TO THE W FOR LNDG RWY 12. HE KEEPS COACHING ME UNDER THE FOG BY THE TIME I GET UNDER THE FOG WE ARE OT 300' OVER THE WATER MANEUVERING DOWNWIND BASE FINAL LNDG WAS OPS NORMAL EXCEPT FOR OUR CIRCLING WAY BELOW MINIMUMS. I HAVE 5 YRS OF EXPERIENCE LNDG AT DUT AND DID NOT NEED ANY COACHING. BY DOING THAT THE CHK AIRMAN TALKED ME INTO DOING SOMETHING I WOULD NOT HAVE OTHERWISE DONE, CIRCLE BELOW MINIMUMS. JUMPSEAT RIDER CHK AIRMAN OR NOT SHOULD NOT COACH OR HELP OUT AN EXPERIENCED CAPT. LET HIM MAKE HIS OWN DECISIONS, THAT'S HOW HE GOT WHERE HE IS AT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

PIC of act medium large transport accepts ckp recommendation about circling approach into dut then complains that he was coerced into flying at too low an altitude during the approach.