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Attributes | |
ACN | 153166 |
Time | |
Date | 199008 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pom |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla tracon : ont |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 153166 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 153911 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On departure from ont departure control asked if air carrier X could cross dowst intersection at or above 14000'. We replied yes. On handoff to ZLA he issued further climb to FL230 and came back with 'cross dowst at 140 if you're able.' we had relaxed climb rate somewhat and crossed dowst about 13000', thinking ZLA had cancelled hard/fast crossing restriction. Misunderstanding.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X FAILED TO COMPLY WITH SID CROSSING RESTRICTION. PLT DEVIATION.
Narrative: ON DEP FROM ONT DEP CTL ASKED IF ACR X COULD CROSS DOWST INTXN AT OR ABOVE 14000'. WE REPLIED YES. ON HDOF TO ZLA HE ISSUED FURTHER CLB TO FL230 AND CAME BACK WITH 'CROSS DOWST AT 140 IF YOU'RE ABLE.' WE HAD RELAXED CLB RATE SOMEWHAT AND CROSSED DOWST ABOUT 13000', THINKING ZLA HAD CANCELLED HARD/FAST XING RESTRICTION. MISUNDERSTANDING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.