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Attributes | |
ACN | 1537257 |
Time | |
Date | 201804 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | EWR.Airport |
State Reference | NY |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER/LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Type 2200 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
I was performing the duties of pilot monitoring for our arrival into ewr. Due to the crosswind to the primary runways we were assigned runway 11 into newark. During the approach brief the captain and I had discussed to slow down to 200 knots if assigned to fly below the bravo airspace to avoid violating [fars]. Immediately prior to entering the lateral boundary below the bravo shelf; we began a speed reduction and almost instantly ATC told us to maintain 250 knots until advised. I queried ATC and told them we would not be able to do so as that would violate us. ATC said it's fine; I need you to maintain 250 knots until advised for traffic separation. The captain accelerated to 250 knots and we held that speed until advised to begin a reduction for the sequence in between an arrival and prior to a departure on the 22L and 22R runways. We landed uneventfully and collectively decided to fill [out] a report.perhaps if ny approach is constantly going to give arrivals to runway 11 250 knots until advised; then they should build an airspace corridor for that arrival when it's in use so traffic does not get violated for inability to comply with their instructions. As for our actions in speeding up as they requested; we believed; due to the amount of traffic in the area under their control; we did what was best to prevent a loss of separation event that could lead to a TA/RA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ERJ-175 First Officer reported N90 TRACON requested they fly 250 knots below the Class Bravo shelf on arrival into EWR in violation of applicable FARs.
Narrative: I was performing the duties of pilot monitoring for our arrival into EWR. Due to the crosswind to the primary runways we were assigned Runway 11 into Newark. During the approach brief the Captain and I had discussed to slow down to 200 knots if assigned to fly below the Bravo Airspace to avoid violating [FARs]. Immediately prior to entering the lateral boundary below the Bravo shelf; we began a speed reduction and almost instantly ATC told us to maintain 250 knots until advised. I queried ATC and told them we would not be able to do so as that would violate us. ATC said it's fine; I need you to maintain 250 knots until advised for traffic separation. The Captain accelerated to 250 knots and we held that speed until advised to begin a reduction for the sequence in between an arrival and prior to a departure on the 22L and 22R Runways. We landed uneventfully and collectively decided to fill [out] a report.Perhaps if NY Approach is constantly going to give arrivals to Runway 11 250 knots until advised; then they should build an airspace corridor for that arrival when it's in use so traffic does not get violated for inability to comply with their instructions. As for our actions in speeding up as they requested; we believed; due to the amount of traffic in the area under their control; we did what was best to prevent a loss of separation event that could lead to a TA/RA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.