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B767 captain reported an unsafe procedure that reinforces negative training of ignoring altitude alerts during coupled approaches.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1540176 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201804 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | EWR.Airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
| Experience | Flight Crew Type 5839 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
ILS 04R at ewr vectored to intercept the glide slope at 3;00 feet and set the missed approach altitude of 2;500 feet. At 2;200 feet the altitude alert horn; discreet light and EICAS message appeared. 'Oh ignore that' and cancel the EICAS; at 2;200 feet above the ground in a busy terminal area.every ILS at newark in the 767 fleet is experiencing this undesired aircraft state unless they are putting the gear out in level flight before the final approach fix.this is an unsafe procedure. We are teaching our pilots to ignore the altitude alert horn and alert. The consequences of that negative training are far worse than those associated with setting the missed approach altitude at 1;000 feet.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 Captain reported an unsafe procedure that reinforces negative training of ignoring altitude alerts during coupled approaches.
Narrative: ILS 04R at EWR Vectored to intercept the glide slope at 3;00 feet and set the missed approach altitude of 2;500 feet. At 2;200 feet the altitude alert horn; discreet light and EICAS message appeared. 'Oh ignore that' and cancel the EICAS; at 2;200 feet above the ground in a busy terminal area.EVERY ILS at Newark in the 767 fleet is experiencing this UNDESIRED AIRCRAFT STATE unless they are putting the gear out in level flight before the final approach fix.This is an unsafe procedure. We are teaching our pilots to ignore the altitude alert horn and alert. The consequences of that negative training are far worse than those associated with setting the missed approach altitude at 1;000 feet.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.