Air carrier widebody transport flight engineer flames out engie at cruise due fuel system mismanagem...

Attributes
ACN	154467
Time
Date	199008
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sbcw
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : okc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute airway : sbcw
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 285
ASRS Report	154467
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

At FL370, air carrier widebody transport series aircraft #3 engine flamed out. I believe the flame out was caused by fuel starvation. I was in a tank to engine fuel feed confign. #3 main tank was low, and #4 train tank was high. I was going to open both xfeeds and shut off the boost pumps in #3 tank, unfortunately, I did the reverse. I shut off the pumps first. Within 30 seconds of the mistake the engine flamed out. I suspect that the engine cannot gravity feed at FL370. This is my fault. However, the tech manual had a rapid relight procedure and an engine start procedure for in-flight. We attempted the rapid relight at FL370. Did not relight. We ran the engine shut down checklist. Checked the manual to make sure we were in the start envelope, and made 6-7 attempts to restart the engine. All within the envelope; altitude, airspeed and N2 limits. None were successful. The engine restarted on the ground. Apparently the envelope shown in the tech manual is not valid. If not, how many other charts are no longer valid?

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR WDB FE FLAMES OUT ENGIE AT CRUISE DUE FUEL SYSTEM MISMANAGEMENT.

Narrative: AT FL370, ACR WDB SERIES ACFT #3 ENG FLAMED OUT. I BELIEVE THE FLAME OUT WAS CAUSED BY FUEL STARVATION. I WAS IN A TANK TO ENG FUEL FEED CONFIGN. #3 MAIN TANK WAS LOW, AND #4 TRAIN TANK WAS HIGH. I WAS GOING TO OPEN BOTH XFEEDS AND SHUT OFF THE BOOST PUMPS IN #3 TANK, UNFORTUNATELY, I DID THE REVERSE. I SHUT OFF THE PUMPS FIRST. WITHIN 30 SECS OF THE MISTAKE THE ENG FLAMED OUT. I SUSPECT THAT THE ENG CANNOT GRAVITY FEED AT FL370. THIS IS MY FAULT. HOWEVER, THE TECH MANUAL HAD A RAPID RELIGHT PROC AND AN ENG START PROC FOR INFLT. WE ATTEMPTED THE RAPID RELIGHT AT FL370. DID NOT RELIGHT. WE RAN THE ENG SHUT DOWN CHKLIST. CHKED THE MANUAL TO MAKE SURE WE WERE IN THE START ENVELOPE, AND MADE 6-7 ATTEMPTS TO RESTART THE ENG. ALL WITHIN THE ENVELOPE; ALT, AIRSPD AND N2 LIMITS. NONE WERE SUCCESSFUL. THE ENG RESTARTED ON THE GND. APPARENTLY THE ENVELOPE SHOWN IN THE TECH MANUAL IS NOT VALID. IF NOT, HOW MANY OTHER CHARTS ARE NO LONGER VALID?

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier widebody transport flight engineer flames out engie at cruise due fuel system mismanagement.