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Attributes | |
ACN | 154554 |
Time | |
Date | 199008 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 154554 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
We were holding short, #1 for takeoff on runway 22L. An light transport was on the runway holding for takeoff. The tower called us, '(call sign), I need to talk to you.' I replied, 'go ahead.' tower replied, 'position behind the light transport.' I replied, 'roger, position behind the light transport.' tower replied, 'I'm sorry, behind the light transport.' the light transport then moved up so we could get into position behind him. We then taxied into position behind the light transport. As we taxied into position, I verified with the tower if this was what he intended. There was a pause, then the tower replied twice, 'don't do this to me.' the tower controller used several improper phrases and terminology which the light transport and the first officer and I questioned.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LCL CTLR IMPROPER ATC PHRASEOLOGY. OPERATIONAL DEVIATION.
Narrative: WE WERE HOLDING SHORT, #1 FOR TKOF ON RWY 22L. AN LTT WAS ON THE RWY HOLDING FOR TKOF. THE TWR CALLED US, '(CALL SIGN), I NEED TO TALK TO YOU.' I REPLIED, 'GO AHEAD.' TWR REPLIED, 'POS BEHIND THE LTT.' I REPLIED, 'ROGER, POS BEHIND THE LTT.' TWR REPLIED, 'I'M SORRY, BEHIND THE LTT.' THE LTT THEN MOVED UP SO WE COULD GET INTO POS BEHIND HIM. WE THEN TAXIED INTO POS BEHIND THE LTT. AS WE TAXIED INTO POS, I VERIFIED WITH THE TWR IF THIS WAS WHAT HE INTENDED. THERE WAS A PAUSE, THEN THE TWR REPLIED TWICE, 'DON'T DO THIS TO ME.' THE TWR CTLR USED SEVERAL IMPROPER PHRASES AND TERMINOLOGY WHICH THE LTT AND THE F/O AND I QUESTIONED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.