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Attributes | |
ACN | 154760 |
Time | |
Date | 199008 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : vhp |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 27800 msl bound upper : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6200 flight time type : 340 |
ASRS Report | 154760 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were operating air carrier X from ind to den. We were assigned a heading of 260 degree vector for traffic and told to climb and maintain FL280. As we climbed out of FL278 the controller said in an excited voice, 'air carrier X, say altitude.' we told him FL278 climbing to FL280. His response was air carrier X immediately descend to FL270. He pointed out air carrier Y medium large transport at 12 O'clock position about 2 mi opp direction at FL280. We immediately descended to FL270 and nothing else was said. The air traffic controller was busy that morning talking to numerous aircraft on I think 2 frequencys. Our course and route of flight was about 270 degrees which is an even altitude. Why the controller had conflicting eastbound traffic on an even altitude is unknown to me, I think controllers should adhere more strictly to the westbound even altitude, eastbound odd altitude rule.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION WITH ACR Y. SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: WE WERE OPERATING ACR X FROM IND TO DEN. WE WERE ASSIGNED A HDG OF 260 DEG VECTOR FOR TFC AND TOLD TO CLB AND MAINTAIN FL280. AS WE CLBED OUT OF FL278 THE CTLR SAID IN AN EXCITED VOICE, 'ACR X, SAY ALT.' WE TOLD HIM FL278 CLBING TO FL280. HIS RESPONSE WAS ACR X IMMEDIATELY DSND TO FL270. HE POINTED OUT ACR Y MLG AT 12 O'CLOCK POS ABOUT 2 MI OPP DIRECTION AT FL280. WE IMMEDIATELY DSNDED TO FL270 AND NOTHING ELSE WAS SAID. THE AIR TFC CTLR WAS BUSY THAT MORNING TALKING TO NUMEROUS ACFT ON I THINK 2 FREQS. OUR COURSE AND RTE OF FLT WAS ABOUT 270 DEGS WHICH IS AN EVEN ALT. WHY THE CTLR HAD CONFLICTING EBND TFC ON AN EVEN ALT IS UNKNOWN TO ME, I THINK CTLRS SHOULD ADHERE MORE STRICTLY TO THE WBND EVEN ALT, EBND ODD ALT RULE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.