Atx flight crew on trans atlantic flight needs to declare emergency to get clearance from FL270 to F...

Attributes
ACN	156631
Time
Date	199009
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : bgbw
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 27000 msl bound upper : 43000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : czqx enroute other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10100 flight time type : 150
ASRS Report	156631
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : declared emergency other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

I received ATC clearance from bikf to cyyr FL270 at mach .75, I informed ATC that full route at FL270 was not acceptable unless we could have FL430 not later than N63/W40. ATC advised that would not be a problem. Average forecasted winds at FL270 were to be 55 KTS but in fact were in excess of 100 KTS. At N63/W40 we requested FL430, numerous requests were made to no avail. At N61/W50 our fuel estimate to cyyr had diminished to 350 pounds on arrival. At this time, I instructed gander oceanic as to our current situation. They asked if I wished to declare an emergency. I answered affirmative and requested immediate climb to FL430. We were again delayed by gander oceanic while they assessed the traffic situation. After our climb to FL430 our estimate to porgy improved by nine mins and fuel reserve improved from 350 pounds to 1100 pounds at cyyr. On arriving at FL430 gander asked if we would need additional assistance and if we were still in an emergency state. I answered negative, the change to FL430 had resolved the problem.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ATX FLT CREW ON TRANS ATLANTIC FLT NEEDS TO DECLARE EMERGENCY TO GET CLRNC FROM FL270 TO FL430 FOR FUEL CONSERVATION.

Narrative: I RECEIVED ATC CLRNC FROM BIKF TO CYYR FL270 AT MACH .75, I INFORMED ATC THAT FULL RTE AT FL270 WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE UNLESS WE COULD HAVE FL430 NOT LATER THAN N63/W40. ATC ADVISED THAT WOULD NOT BE A PROB. AVERAGE FORECASTED WINDS AT FL270 WERE TO BE 55 KTS BUT IN FACT WERE IN EXCESS OF 100 KTS. AT N63/W40 WE REQUESTED FL430, NUMEROUS REQUESTS WERE MADE TO NO AVAIL. AT N61/W50 OUR FUEL ESTIMATE TO CYYR HAD DIMINISHED TO 350 LBS ON ARR. AT THIS TIME, I INSTRUCTED GANDER OCEANIC AS TO OUR CURRENT SITUATION. THEY ASKED IF I WISHED TO DECLARE AN EMER. I ANSWERED AFFIRMATIVE AND REQUESTED IMMEDIATE CLB TO FL430. WE WERE AGAIN DELAYED BY GANDER OCEANIC WHILE THEY ASSESSED THE TFC SITUATION. AFTER OUR CLB TO FL430 OUR ESTIMATE TO PORGY IMPROVED BY NINE MINS AND FUEL RESERVE IMPROVED FROM 350 LBS TO 1100 LBS AT CYYR. ON ARRIVING AT FL430 GANDER ASKED IF WE WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE AND IF WE WERE STILL IN AN EMER STATE. I ANSWERED NEGATIVE, THE CHANGE TO FL430 HAD RESOLVED THE PROB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Atx flight crew on trans atlantic flight needs to declare emergency to get clearance from FL270 to FL430 for fuel conservation.