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An erj first officer reported that ATC left the aircraft at a high altitude close to the airport which created a very steep and rapid descent.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1569659 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201805 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER/LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
As a result of ATC leaving us at a high altitude so close to the airport; I personally felt rushed trying to prepare for arrival. On descent into ZZZ; ATC left us high and we had to descend quickly. VMC conditions prevailed; but ZZZ approach cleared us for the procedure turn at the IAF on the RNAV xx approach to allow for descent at around FL180. As pilot monitoring; I looked at the approach chart and proceeded to update the FMS for the new clearance. While I was head down; I heard the captain say something to the effect of 'what the heck!' I looked up to see a 5;300 feet per minute descent with autopilot disconnected. Captain was immediately recovering when we received an overspeed warning and a call from ATC issuing a terrain alert. ATC asked if we had terrain in sight and I replied that we did. Overspeed only lasted about 5 seconds and I noticed a max speed of 308 knots. Recovery occurred around 11;000 feet. The approach was a stable approach and we proceeded to land. As pilot monitoring; I should have queried ATC about the altitude. Even if we weren't allowed to descend further; I should have asked for extended vectors to allow for descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An ERJ First Officer reported that ATC left the aircraft at a high altitude close to the airport which created a very steep and rapid descent.
Narrative: As a result of ATC leaving us at a high altitude so close to the airport; I personally felt rushed trying to prepare for arrival. On descent into ZZZ; ATC left us high and we had to descend quickly. VMC conditions prevailed; but ZZZ Approach cleared us for the procedure turn at the IAF on the RNAV XX Approach to allow for descent at around FL180. As Pilot Monitoring; I looked at the approach chart and proceeded to update the FMS for the new clearance. While I was head down; I heard the Captain say something to the effect of 'What the heck!' I looked up to see a 5;300 feet per minute descent with autopilot disconnected. Captain was immediately recovering when we received an overspeed warning and a call from ATC issuing a terrain alert. ATC asked if we had terrain in sight and I replied that we did. Overspeed only lasted about 5 seconds and I noticed a max speed of 308 knots. Recovery occurred around 11;000 feet. The approach was a stable approach and we proceeded to land. As pilot monitoring; I should have queried ATC about the altitude. Even if we weren't allowed to descend further; I should have asked for extended vectors to allow for descent.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.