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Attributes | |
ACN | 157215 |
Time | |
Date | 199009 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pae |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 1750 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 157215 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Conducting practice approachs at pae. Being vectored for mdb 16, after low approach from VOR 34. Advised of small transport orbiting #1 and other traffic, #2. When I verified traffic in sight, cleared direct NDB. Traffic #2 was low and passed out of the picture to the east. When first sighted #1 small transport was westbound. When I again looked up he had reversed course and was closing from my left. I asked center to repeat the small transport altitude, which I had forgotten, at that point I dropped down 100' and the small transport seemed to climb. Center replied '2200 direct no, now climbing to 2400, he must have seen you.' I was at 2000'. I should have paid more attention to the traffic and less to the NDB, then I would have caught his course reversal. I think the controller erred in allowing the converging courses when our altitudes were so similar. I think the small transport was VFR and doing some type of equipment evaluation. I was concentrating on my instrument work. We both did, evidently, a just adequate job of looking for traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA ON TRAINING NDB APCH HAS NMAC WITH SMT.
Narrative: CONDUCTING PRACTICE APCHS AT PAE. BEING VECTORED FOR MDB 16, AFTER LOW APCH FROM VOR 34. ADVISED OF SMT ORBITING #1 AND OTHER TFC, #2. WHEN I VERIFIED TFC IN SIGHT, CLRED DIRECT NDB. TFC #2 WAS LOW AND PASSED OUT OF THE PICTURE TO THE E. WHEN FIRST SIGHTED #1 SMT WAS WBND. WHEN I AGAIN LOOKED UP HE HAD REVERSED COURSE AND WAS CLOSING FROM MY L. I ASKED CTR TO REPEAT THE SMT ALT, WHICH I HAD FORGOTTEN, AT THAT POINT I DROPPED DOWN 100' AND THE SMT SEEMED TO CLB. CTR REPLIED '2200 DIRECT NO, NOW CLBING TO 2400, HE MUST HAVE SEEN YOU.' I WAS AT 2000'. I SHOULD HAVE PAID MORE ATTN TO THE TFC AND LESS TO THE NDB, THEN I WOULD HAVE CAUGHT HIS COURSE REVERSAL. I THINK THE CTLR ERRED IN ALLOWING THE CONVERGING COURSES WHEN OUR ALTS WERE SO SIMILAR. I THINK THE SMT WAS VFR AND DOING SOME TYPE OF EQUIP EVALUATION. I WAS CONCENTRATING ON MY INSTRUMENT WORK. WE BOTH DID, EVIDENTLY, A JUST ADEQUATE JOB OF LOOKING FOR TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.