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Attributes | |
ACN | 1583287 |
Time | |
Date | 201810 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | MSP.Airport |
State Reference | MN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | A321 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Total 12800 |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural FAR |
Narrative:
We were approaching runway 12R in msp and we were cleared to 4000 feet and 190 knots. Then we were given a base turn and subsequently cleared to a heading to join ILS 12R and 3000 feet until established. I selected vertical speed of -500 FPM to join the ILS. ATC then told us we had exited class B airspace by 200 feet but then had reentered class B airspace. Our speed at this point was 170 knots. Not sure if a deviation has occurred as we were following ATC clearance. We understood the clearance of '3000 feet until established; cleared for the approach' as a clearance to descend to 3000 feet. Also we relied on ATC to keep us in class B airspace as it was IMC conditions a more thorough study of the class B airspace would have been useful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A321 flight crew reported exiting and reentering Class B Airspace while complying with an ATC clearance.
Narrative: We were approaching runway 12R in MSP and we were cleared to 4000 feet and 190 knots. Then we were given a base turn and subsequently cleared to a heading to join ILS 12R and 3000 feet until established. I selected vertical speed of -500 FPM to join the ILS. ATC then told us we had exited Class B airspace by 200 feet but then had reentered Class B airspace. Our speed at this point was 170 knots. Not sure if a deviation has occurred as we were following ATC clearance. We understood the clearance of '3000 feet until established; cleared for the approach' as a clearance to descend to 3000 feet. Also we relied on ATC to keep us in Class B airspace as it was IMC conditions A more thorough study of the Class B airspace would have been useful.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.