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Attributes | |
ACN | 1603503 |
Time | |
Date | 201812 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Parked |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Aerofoil Ice System |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 357 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural MEL Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
ZZZ had terrible weather. We were already hours late when our aircraft arrived. The previous crew wrote up wing anti- ice not working. Outstation maintenance arrived; and dispatch and I determined that we could depart with a MEL (minimum equipment list) that allows us to fly in icing conditions. MEL was very complex and confusing. It required us to start a [B737] max 8 with an air cart and start the number 2 engine first. I was concerned about the safety of doing that in the dark and in heavy rain; so I made sure the ground crew and I were completely confident in our procedures. A new release with MEL arrived; logbook was completed by outstation maintenance; and we began the process of starting the number 2 engine. During that time; we also were dealing with three different runway changes at ZZZ (xxl then xyl then xzl) which also meant three different sids (standard instrument departure) and complete re-briefing of takeoff; departure and engine out procedures. Also had to coordinate a crossbleed start. Then; our release expired and we had to get with dispatch to reload the flight. Amid all these distractions; we didn't realize that maintenance never placed a sticker in the flight deck or logbook. I reviewed the logbook after maintenance was done; but totally forgot about the stickers. I guess the major distraction was how the MEL and the maximum 8 aom (aircraft operations manual) differed with each other on this procedure; and lack of clear directions on working with this MEL. Flight was completed in ZZZ1 and we went to the hotel. I think a clearer aom or MEL is needed on this problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 MAX Captain reported departing with deferred maintenance and complex MEL; but noticed MEL sticker was not properly applied.
Narrative: ZZZ had terrible weather. We were already hours late when our aircraft arrived. The previous crew wrote up wing anti- ice not working. Outstation Maintenance arrived; and Dispatch and I determined that we could depart with a MEL (Minimum Equipment List) that allows us to fly in icing conditions. MEL was VERY complex and confusing. It required us to start a [B737] Max 8 with an air cart and start the number 2 engine first. I was concerned about the Safety of doing that in the dark and in heavy rain; so I made sure the ground crew and I were completely confident in our procedures. A new release with MEL arrived; logbook was completed by Outstation Maintenance; and we began the process of starting the number 2 engine. During that time; we also were dealing with three different runway changes at ZZZ (XXL then XYL then XZL) which also meant three different SIDS (Standard instrument Departure) and complete re-briefing of takeoff; departure and engine out procedures. Also had to coordinate a crossbleed start. Then; our release expired and we had to get with Dispatch to reload the flight. Amid all these distractions; we didn't realize that Maintenance never placed a sticker in the flight deck or logbook. I reviewed the logbook after Maintenance was done; but totally forgot about the stickers. I guess the major distraction was how the MEL and the MAX 8 AOM (Aircraft Operations Manual) differed with each other on this procedure; and lack of clear directions on working with this MEL. Flight was completed in ZZZ1 and we went to the hotel. I think a clearer AOM or MEL is needed on this problem.
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