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Attributes | |
ACN | 1613806 |
Time | |
Date | 201901 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | DTW.Airport |
State Reference | MI |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 170 Flight Crew Total 2060 Flight Crew Type 65 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
Dtw ATCT controllers stopped issuing 'RNAV to' takeoff clearances about a month ago. Instead; they are now providing a tower-assigned heading with all takeoff clearances; including to aircraft who are filed on the new RNAV sids out of dtw. Dtw ATCT has decided to communicate this on the digital ATIS with a vague remark 'rotg not in effect.' almost nobody understands what this means at first glance; unless they ask. According to FAA order 7340.2; rotg means 'rotating;' which is not the intended use here. It would be nice if dtw ATCT would just spell out 'RNAV off the ground not in effect' or better yet; to change that to 'expect tower assigned heading' on the departure ATIS. The term 'RNAV off the ground' is not really well-known to most pilots. If they want to use the rotg abbreviation; it would be nice to get it added to the aforementioned order.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier pilot reported confusion at DTW when the acronym ROTG was used in the ATIS.
Narrative: DTW ATCT controllers stopped issuing 'RNAV to' takeoff clearances about a month ago. Instead; they are now providing a tower-assigned heading with all takeoff clearances; including to aircraft who are filed on the new RNAV SIDs out of DTW. DTW ATCT has decided to communicate this on the digital ATIS with a vague remark 'ROTG NOT IN EFFECT.' Almost nobody understands what this means at first glance; unless they ask. According to FAA Order 7340.2; ROTG means 'rotating;' which is not the intended use here. It would be nice if DTW ATCT would just spell out 'RNAV OFF THE GROUND NOT IN EFFECT' or better yet; to change that to 'EXPECT TOWER ASSIGNED HEADING' on the departure ATIS. The term 'RNAV off the ground' is not really well-known to most pilots. If they want to use the ROTG abbreviation; it would be nice to get it added to the aforementioned order.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.