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Attributes | |
ACN | 161857 |
Time | |
Date | 199010 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pmd airport : bur |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : edw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star enroute airway : edw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 13650 flight time type : 3700 |
ASRS Report | 161857 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Near miss occurred over pmd VOR with small civil aircraft (see description on reverse). We were on an IFR clearance to cross 10 mi east of pmd VOR at 14000', then cross janny intersection and maintain 8000' on the lynxx 5 arrival to bur. We had left 14000' for 8000. At 10000' I slowed for speed reduction from 280 to 250 KIAS. As we leveled at 10000' we approached the VOR. At station passage I caught I glimpse of an aircraft empennage in my forward windshield (right side). My vision was partially obstructed by the windshield post, so I did not see him until he was too close for evasive action. I saw him then pass beneath us on the left-hand side of the aircraft. I could make out 3 passenger and a '#' from the registration #. I called approach control and said we had a close call. He acknowledged with a 'roger.' there were no injuries and no evasive action taken. Perhaps the problem could have been eliminated if the controller had had contact with the small aircraft. Our altimeter was set to 30.12, a value give us by pmd center just before the handoff to edw approach. Altimeter vigilance by the other aircraft could have possibly eliminated the near miss. Other aircraft description: small transport twin engine, white with brown metallic trim. Possible '#' digit in registration #. Addendum: also of importance is the fact that bur ATIS was unavailable to us until we were about at pmd VOR. My first officer was copying the ATIS and never saw the traffic in question. Perhaps bur needs to modify its equipment to transmit ATIS information a greater distance. Barring that, perhaps edw approach should give ATIS information for bur to all air carrier's arriving over pmd VOR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX ACR-MLG GA-SMT OVER PMD VOR.
Narrative: NEAR MISS OCCURRED OVER PMD VOR WITH SMALL CIVIL ACFT (SEE DESCRIPTION ON REVERSE). WE WERE ON AN IFR CLRNC TO CROSS 10 MI E OF PMD VOR AT 14000', THEN CROSS JANNY INTXN AND MAINTAIN 8000' ON THE LYNXX 5 ARR TO BUR. WE HAD LEFT 14000' FOR 8000. AT 10000' I SLOWED FOR SPD REDUCTION FROM 280 TO 250 KIAS. AS WE LEVELED AT 10000' WE APCHED THE VOR. AT STATION PASSAGE I CAUGHT I GLIMPSE OF AN ACFT EMPENNAGE IN MY FORWARD WINDSHIELD (RIGHT SIDE). MY VISION WAS PARTIALLY OBSTRUCTED BY THE WINDSHIELD POST, SO I DID NOT SEE HIM UNTIL HE WAS TOO CLOSE FOR EVASIVE ACTION. I SAW HIM THEN PASS BENEATH US ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE ACFT. I COULD MAKE OUT 3 PAX AND A '#' FROM THE REGISTRATION #. I CALLED APCH CTL AND SAID WE HAD A CLOSE CALL. HE ACKNOWLEDGED WITH A 'ROGER.' THERE WERE NO INJURIES AND NO EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN. PERHAPS THE PROB COULD HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED IF THE CTLR HAD HAD CONTACT WITH THE SMA. OUR ALTIMETER WAS SET TO 30.12, A VALUE GIVE US BY PMD CENTER JUST BEFORE THE HDOF TO EDW APCH. ALTIMETER VIGILANCE BY THE OTHER ACFT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY ELIMINATED THE NEAR MISS. OTHER ACFT DESCRIPTION: SMT TWIN ENG, WHITE WITH BROWN METALLIC TRIM. POSSIBLE '#' DIGIT IN REGISTRATION #. ADDENDUM: ALSO OF IMPORTANCE IS THE FACT THAT BUR ATIS WAS UNAVAILABLE TO US UNTIL WE WERE ABOUT AT PMD VOR. MY F/O WAS COPYING THE ATIS AND NEVER SAW THE TFC IN QUESTION. PERHAPS BUR NEEDS TO MODIFY ITS EQUIP TO XMIT ATIS INFO A GREATER DISTANCE. BARRING THAT, PERHAPS EDW APCH SHOULD GIVE ATIS INFO FOR BUR TO ALL ACR'S ARRIVING OVER PMD VOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.