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Attributes | |
ACN | 162169 |
Time | |
Date | 199011 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak tower : sfo |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in approach : visual arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in approach : visual arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 162169 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 162157 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe incursion : runway other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure other |
Narrative:
Told by bay approach to 'expect tipp toe visibility to runway 28L,' but to follow a widebody transport Y 6 mi ahead for runway 28R.' confusion was were we going to runway 28L, or did he change his mind to follow the widebody transport Y to runway 28R? I asked first officer to verify landing runway when we switched to tower, but tower was talking nonstop and we couldn't get a word in edgewise until 500' AGL. Then an medium large transport Z apparently following us went missed, saying we were lined up on his runway, runway 28R! Tower then responded to our request to verify landing runway, saying, 'cleared to land runway 28R, but your runway was runway 28L!' landed west/O incident. Contacted tower after landing. Found out later from tower chief that controller training was in progress at bay approach, and that a tape analysis verified we correctly acknowledged to expect runway 28R, but controller didn't catch his error before switching us to tower.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DUE TO APCH CTLR'S TERMINOLOGY, THE MLG X ACFT EXECUTING A VISUAL APCH LINED UP WITH THE WRONG RWY CAUSING A TRAILING ACFT TO MAKE A GO AROUND.
Narrative: TOLD BY BAY APCH TO 'EXPECT TIPP TOE VIS TO RWY 28L,' BUT TO FOLLOW A WDB Y 6 MI AHEAD FOR RWY 28R.' CONFUSION WAS WERE WE GOING TO RWY 28L, OR DID HE CHANGE HIS MIND TO FOLLOW THE WDB Y TO RWY 28R? I ASKED F/O TO VERIFY LNDG RWY WHEN WE SWITCHED TO TWR, BUT TWR WAS TALKING NONSTOP AND WE COULDN'T GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE UNTIL 500' AGL. THEN AN MLG Z APPARENTLY FOLLOWING US WENT MISSED, SAYING WE WERE LINED UP ON HIS RWY, RWY 28R! TWR THEN RESPONDED TO OUR REQUEST TO VERIFY LNDG RWY, SAYING, 'CLRED TO LAND RWY 28R, BUT YOUR RWY WAS RWY 28L!' LANDED W/O INCIDENT. CONTACTED TWR AFTER LNDG. FOUND OUT LATER FROM TWR CHIEF THAT CTLR TRNING WAS IN PROGRESS AT BAY APCH, AND THAT A TAPE ANALYSIS VERIFIED WE CORRECTLY ACKNOWLEDGED TO EXPECT RWY 28R, BUT CTLR DIDN'T CATCH HIS ERROR BEFORE SWITCHING US TO TWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.