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Emb-175 flight crew reported exceeding 200 kts below lax class B airspace while flying the OHSEA2 RNAV arrival into sna.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1632853 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201903 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | SNA.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER/LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | STAR OHSEA2 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
I was the captain (pilot monitoring) during an arrival to sna. We were flying the OHSEA2 arrival. We had descended to 5;000 feet to meet a crossing restriction. We were at 250 knots and I thought it was a good time to slow; since we had a level portion of the arrival. At this time; ATC radioed the instruction; 'slow to 200 knots; you are below the class bravo.' we complied immediately; but it seems we should have already been at 200 knots. There is no depiction of the class B on the arrival chart; nor is there a speed restriction depicted; as there were further up on the chart. We were over open water and on an IFR arrival designed for turbojet aircraft. My personal solution going forward was to mark my chart with the 200 knot restriction and make sure I program it in the FMS that way as well as to pay more attention to other arrivals when operating at airports in the vicinity of [the] larger; class B airport. While it looks like the waypoint laxbb may be named to indicate that airspace; it is not noted as such on the chart. Furthermore; there is no published speed restriction at laxbb; and I believe this would be a good charted solution to alleviate the threat for all pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB-175 flight crew reported exceeding 200 kts below LAX Class B airspace while flying the OHSEA2 RNAV arrival into SNA.
Narrative: I was the Captain (Pilot Monitoring) during an arrival to SNA. We were flying the OHSEA2 arrival. We had descended to 5;000 feet to meet a crossing restriction. We were at 250 knots and I thought it was a good time to slow; since we had a level portion of the arrival. At this time; ATC radioed the instruction; 'Slow to 200 knots; you are below the Class Bravo.' We complied immediately; but it seems we should have already been at 200 knots. There is no depiction of the Class B on the arrival chart; nor is there a speed restriction depicted; as there were further up on the chart. We were over open water and on an IFR arrival designed for Turbojet aircraft. My personal solution going forward was to mark my chart with the 200 knot restriction and make sure I program it in the FMS that way as well as to pay more attention to other arrivals when operating at airports in the vicinity of [the] larger; Class B airport. While it looks like the waypoint LAXBB may be named to indicate that airspace; it is not noted as such on the chart. Furthermore; there is no published speed restriction at LAXBB; and I believe this would be a good charted solution to alleviate the threat for all pilots.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.